Unless I’m missing something, this is disappointing
Alikont on
Currently it was published as “signed” on rada.gov.ua, but now the status is back to “signature pending”.
It’s a shitshow.
Edit: And it’s back to “Signed”
Grand-Consequence-99 on
How can you still be corrupt while under siege? Have they not learned anything? Losing the EU support would be the nail in the coffin.
ukrainianhab on
Ah the world gets a glimpse into pre full scale war Zelensky whom we all thought was gone.
Not to sure if it’s been signed yet though.
MaxBrie on
I was pro-Zelensky for a long time, even though I didn’t vote for him. But I must say this now. Zelensky is no longer my president.
dont_say_Good on
Huh
Budget_Scheme_1280 on
this is a big mistake.
CriticalBath2367 on
Backsliding on anti-corruption does not look good when you are asking the international community for billions of dollars worth of support for the war effort.
dangerousbob on
What’s going on?
pantherrecon on
Can anyone provide some level analysis as to why they would do this? This seems to be directly contrary to EU and western integration efforts. There has to be some kind of perceived upside or justification, right?
Candleholders on
With this law in place, Ukraine does not belong in the EU.
Repeal it.
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dunncrew on
What is the claimed benefit of this legislation?
MrFunktasticc on
What on earth is Zelensky thinking?
Key_Brother on
Well now the Russians have ammo to try convince people not to support Ukraine now. But won’t change my mind I will still support Ukraine
iury221 on
honestly Zelensky lost huge part of his reputation.People literally were screaming “Ганьба”and were joking about Zelensky after news about signing that trash law
DryCloud9903 on
Been doom scrolling for a while about this and something just occurred to me.
The Danish model of support – the one that’s been said to be the most effective – where countries instead of sending already made weaponry invest into Ukranian industries instead… It might be threatened by this.
Ukraine will not lose support. But given that Europe is now undeniably the main supporter, and it’s precisely that they lack ready-made things but are willing to donate money… This is worrying.
captain_todger on
What is NABU? Can somebody explain why this is bad?
Argon288 on
What the fuck, in a time where Ukraine is most in need of international support (with the US being obviously compromised), they do this? It will be easy for many countries to ignore, but the EU will not ignore this. I’m not implying they will halt support for Ukraine, but it is a dangerous move.
I get that Ukraine is fighting for it’s survival, it is total war for Ukraine. But their best bet would be to maintain or implement policies that their biggest supporters like. Ukraine is backed by the EU, UK, USA (limited), others, but no western democracy will see this and ignore it entirely.
Ukraine might get away with it because war, but that is not guaranteed. It just provides ammunition to political opponents (think Russian financed far right parties of any western democracy) of continued military and economic aid to Ukraine by the countries supporting Ukraine.
Ukraine wishes to join the EU, then they do this. Naturally, EU countries will say their desire to join the EU was pragmatic for their continued survival, rather than an actual desire to join the EU. I again am not implying this is the case, I think 90% of Ukraine would love to join the EU, but this is not a good move to make that happen.
DeadOrcSociety on
So they just propped open the doors for open corruption, am I getting that wrong? Why during wartime, when your government/military are under scrutiny for accusations of corruption, then make the act of investigating that corruption effectively impossible? This isn’t a great look. I was gearing up to go fight for Ukraine but fuck, I don’t know anymore.
General-Kalani on
Wow…fucking idiot…
Bootybandit6989 on
What still I dont get if it was a bad move why didnt EU push not to have it signed?
JoshIsASoftie on
Very disappointed in this news! My friends are out in the streets protesting now. I’m glad that Ukrainians are having such a visceral negative reaction to this, it means that its democratic values are still intact.
Chedward_E_Cheese on
Well congrats, you just gave Russia their biggest victory in over a year and they didn’t even have to lose a single soldier for it
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Unless I’m missing something, this is disappointing
Currently it was published as “signed” on rada.gov.ua, but now the status is back to “signature pending”.
It’s a shitshow.
Edit: And it’s back to “Signed”
How can you still be corrupt while under siege? Have they not learned anything? Losing the EU support would be the nail in the coffin.
Ah the world gets a glimpse into pre full scale war Zelensky whom we all thought was gone.
Not to sure if it’s been signed yet though.
I was pro-Zelensky for a long time, even though I didn’t vote for him. But I must say this now. Zelensky is no longer my president.
Huh
this is a big mistake.
Backsliding on anti-corruption does not look good when you are asking the international community for billions of dollars worth of support for the war effort.
What’s going on?
Can anyone provide some level analysis as to why they would do this? This seems to be directly contrary to EU and western integration efforts. There has to be some kind of perceived upside or justification, right?
With this law in place, Ukraine does not belong in the EU.
Repeal it.
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What is the claimed benefit of this legislation?
What on earth is Zelensky thinking?
Well now the Russians have ammo to try convince people not to support Ukraine now. But won’t change my mind I will still support Ukraine
honestly Zelensky lost huge part of his reputation.People literally were screaming “Ганьба”and were joking about Zelensky after news about signing that trash law
Been doom scrolling for a while about this and something just occurred to me.
The Danish model of support – the one that’s been said to be the most effective – where countries instead of sending already made weaponry invest into Ukranian industries instead… It might be threatened by this.
Ukraine will not lose support. But given that Europe is now undeniably the main supporter, and it’s precisely that they lack ready-made things but are willing to donate money… This is worrying.
What is NABU? Can somebody explain why this is bad?
What the fuck, in a time where Ukraine is most in need of international support (with the US being obviously compromised), they do this? It will be easy for many countries to ignore, but the EU will not ignore this. I’m not implying they will halt support for Ukraine, but it is a dangerous move.
I get that Ukraine is fighting for it’s survival, it is total war for Ukraine. But their best bet would be to maintain or implement policies that their biggest supporters like. Ukraine is backed by the EU, UK, USA (limited), others, but no western democracy will see this and ignore it entirely.
Ukraine might get away with it because war, but that is not guaranteed. It just provides ammunition to political opponents (think Russian financed far right parties of any western democracy) of continued military and economic aid to Ukraine by the countries supporting Ukraine.
Ukraine wishes to join the EU, then they do this. Naturally, EU countries will say their desire to join the EU was pragmatic for their continued survival, rather than an actual desire to join the EU. I again am not implying this is the case, I think 90% of Ukraine would love to join the EU, but this is not a good move to make that happen.
So they just propped open the doors for open corruption, am I getting that wrong? Why during wartime, when your government/military are under scrutiny for accusations of corruption, then make the act of investigating that corruption effectively impossible? This isn’t a great look. I was gearing up to go fight for Ukraine but fuck, I don’t know anymore.
Wow…fucking idiot…
What still I dont get if it was a bad move why didnt EU push not to have it signed?
Very disappointed in this news! My friends are out in the streets protesting now. I’m glad that Ukrainians are having such a visceral negative reaction to this, it means that its democratic values are still intact.
Well congrats, you just gave Russia their biggest victory in over a year and they didn’t even have to lose a single soldier for it