Also, I am gonna get some popcorn and wait for all the incels and their “but what about violence against men?!!!!” comments 😉
eloyend on
Is the issue so much significant in Italy, to actually garner such unified support? Like, wtf?
> In 2024, 113 women were victims to femicide, of which 61 of them were killed by a partner or former partner.
Doesn’t tell much on it’s own without showing rates of other causes of homicide and general number of murders.
LushPeachees on
Damn, bout time they stepped up! Protecting women isn’t just a policy, it’s a frickin’ right. Way 2 go Italy. Y’all just set a legit corner stone. Hope other countries are taking notes here. 👏👏👏💯
Unplanned_Unaware on
Thanks, I love blocking users submitting with rage bait titles (yes that’s the title on the site, but quality control is nice)
Dracogame on
Likely unconstitutional law as it just adds extra years in prison if the homicide is against a woman.
No actual initiatives to prevent or combat the “issue”, which is overblown anyway but important to bring up.
Likely accelerated by the killing of a 14yo from a 19yo guy that couldn’t let her go.
This government is champion of pretending to do something once an issue gets to many instagram feeds, without actually doing anything.
Sium4443 on
This sucks, change nothing but tecnically adds a right to woman than men dont have, the death of gender equality.
Right wing did because they want femminists vote, left wing accepted because they are stupid or probably didnt want to lose feminists votes. Internet nazi feminists are some of the most stupid social media phenomenon but is like a cult for 50k/100k people so its important votes.
AdWeak4970 on
As an Italian, here’s what i think is going to happen:
– The law is going to be applied and enforced for everyone for a few months before corruption sets in
– Every poor criminal who did commit femicide will shit their pants until judges realize they can be paid to think of the woman as a man
– Every case that regards the killing of a man will become “routine” and won’t be treated as importantly as femicide for a good while
Personally this law doesnt make much sense since judges are still corrupt and will treat femicide as any other type of killing (or outright ignore it) if paid well enough. Im sure that whoever had the idea to put this law in motion got traumatized by the news of boyfrienda killing their girlfriends and decided to target those type of individuals while ignoring the fact that the constitution says that everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender and race. What a bunch of shitheads.
Im all for women to be important and independent as i myself am a sort of feminist, but putting one gender above the other especially when it comes to murder is utter bullshit.
Key_Passenger_2323 on
Is it legal to kill men then? I mean isn’t killing illegal in 1st place and called homicide?
IAMTHAT9 on
Not to sound bad but are the women that died foreign born in majority or local? Sad anyway
Adorable-Ad3009 on
Definetly unconstitutional, it will never be applied.
Just propaganda. If they actually wanted to introduce a new crime (or rather, a new punishment to an old crime) they could have just sanctioned both men and women whenever they kill a partner or ex partner. This would have led to the same exact effect, with the only difference that they couldn’t call it “femicide”.
In any case, this is an extremely dangerous use of criminal law, as this new law was mostly driven by political propaganda rather than by a well thought social, political, and legal argument.
evoc2911 on
It’s politics. Few hundred homicides ( homo meaning human race but for our politicians this is too far fetched to understand ) while a tragedy per se is not that high considering the nearly 60 million people we have in our Country.
FeherDenes on
In what way can women not be included in regular murder law?
AlexCampy89 on
The Law is incostitutional and will be cancelled.
Murdered women is an issue, but the real issue it’s not their gender nor the fact that they are killed by their husbands and exes, but murders happen at all, even for males, children and elderly people.
It’s not like that therr are A-list Victims and B-list victims just for media sensation.
ByGollie on
I had to re-read that headline twice as it initially sounded like a bill introducing gender-based assassination .
HeavensEtherian on
Femicide is the equivalent of a tiktok trend yet will make it’s way into legislation, quite sad. There’s no difference between femicide and murder. It’s all the same thing. Is there a guy that killed 10 women for no reason? Sure, that counts, but in all other cases it should simply be murder.
I’ve never even heard of this word 2 months ago, and suddenly it’s the biggest issue in existance…
axxo47 on
We implemented this in Croatia a year ago. It turned out pretty useless. Who would’ve thought
SethTaylor987 on
This will work about as well as the war on drugs
These people are crazy enough to kill. “More prison time” will not stop them
This reeks of conservative logic
bastiancontrari on
It addresses a statistically irrelevant phenomenon while being easily marketable and unconstitutional.
If you say this in public, you are labeled a misogynistic brute, which is why everyone is so scared to oppose it.
perivascularspaces on
For all the contrarians in the comments: is this a major issue in Italy? No. Its impact is overblown by a bunch of really loud people? Yes. Do italians target women that much? No, according to raw stats our homicide rate of women is low and homicide in general is an issue of the past.
Is this still a good bill? Yes, 100%. Is it good to target with this scrutiny women’s murder? Yes, 100%. For once it had bi-partisan support.
future_communist69 on
That headline made me think Italy turned into the US trying to kill women if they have an abortion
Sad_Palpitation_2581 on
Idiotic act that will change nothing and which feminists have been protesting for months GG
Karash770 on
Tifa would not approve of this.
Suspicious_Good_2407 on
Wow, that’s a pretty sexist law if I’ve ever seen one. Why wasn’t the law introduced for killing of both sexes? How the hell is that even equal rights, not to mention the legality of this? The government literally tells your life as a man worth less than that of a woman.
Hallenaiken on
Is this a big problem in Italy ?
BraveLordWilloughby on
So, until now it was legal to kill women?
No?
Then what tf is the point? Like bringing in a law making it illegal to steal shoes. It’s already illegal!
Half of these ” *persons name* laws ” are utter nonsense too. Making something doubly illegal doesn’t change anything.
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Great initiative 🙂
Also, I am gonna get some popcorn and wait for all the incels and their “but what about violence against men?!!!!” comments 😉
Is the issue so much significant in Italy, to actually garner such unified support? Like, wtf?
> In 2024, 113 women were victims to femicide, of which 61 of them were killed by a partner or former partner.
Doesn’t tell much on it’s own without showing rates of other causes of homicide and general number of murders.
Damn, bout time they stepped up! Protecting women isn’t just a policy, it’s a frickin’ right. Way 2 go Italy. Y’all just set a legit corner stone. Hope other countries are taking notes here. 👏👏👏💯
Thanks, I love blocking users submitting with rage bait titles (yes that’s the title on the site, but quality control is nice)
Likely unconstitutional law as it just adds extra years in prison if the homicide is against a woman.
No actual initiatives to prevent or combat the “issue”, which is overblown anyway but important to bring up.
Likely accelerated by the killing of a 14yo from a 19yo guy that couldn’t let her go.
This government is champion of pretending to do something once an issue gets to many instagram feeds, without actually doing anything.
This sucks, change nothing but tecnically adds a right to woman than men dont have, the death of gender equality.
Right wing did because they want femminists vote, left wing accepted because they are stupid or probably didnt want to lose feminists votes. Internet nazi feminists are some of the most stupid social media phenomenon but is like a cult for 50k/100k people so its important votes.
As an Italian, here’s what i think is going to happen:
– The law is going to be applied and enforced for everyone for a few months before corruption sets in
– Every poor criminal who did commit femicide will shit their pants until judges realize they can be paid to think of the woman as a man
– Every case that regards the killing of a man will become “routine” and won’t be treated as importantly as femicide for a good while
Personally this law doesnt make much sense since judges are still corrupt and will treat femicide as any other type of killing (or outright ignore it) if paid well enough. Im sure that whoever had the idea to put this law in motion got traumatized by the news of boyfrienda killing their girlfriends and decided to target those type of individuals while ignoring the fact that the constitution says that everyone should be treated equally regardless of gender and race. What a bunch of shitheads.
Im all for women to be important and independent as i myself am a sort of feminist, but putting one gender above the other especially when it comes to murder is utter bullshit.
Is it legal to kill men then? I mean isn’t killing illegal in 1st place and called homicide?
Not to sound bad but are the women that died foreign born in majority or local? Sad anyway
Definetly unconstitutional, it will never be applied.
Just propaganda. If they actually wanted to introduce a new crime (or rather, a new punishment to an old crime) they could have just sanctioned both men and women whenever they kill a partner or ex partner. This would have led to the same exact effect, with the only difference that they couldn’t call it “femicide”.
In any case, this is an extremely dangerous use of criminal law, as this new law was mostly driven by political propaganda rather than by a well thought social, political, and legal argument.
It’s politics. Few hundred homicides ( homo meaning human race but for our politicians this is too far fetched to understand ) while a tragedy per se is not that high considering the nearly 60 million people we have in our Country.
In what way can women not be included in regular murder law?
The Law is incostitutional and will be cancelled.
Murdered women is an issue, but the real issue it’s not their gender nor the fact that they are killed by their husbands and exes, but murders happen at all, even for males, children and elderly people.
It’s not like that therr are A-list Victims and B-list victims just for media sensation.
I had to re-read that headline twice as it initially sounded like a bill introducing gender-based assassination .
Femicide is the equivalent of a tiktok trend yet will make it’s way into legislation, quite sad. There’s no difference between femicide and murder. It’s all the same thing. Is there a guy that killed 10 women for no reason? Sure, that counts, but in all other cases it should simply be murder.
I’ve never even heard of this word 2 months ago, and suddenly it’s the biggest issue in existance…
We implemented this in Croatia a year ago. It turned out pretty useless. Who would’ve thought
This will work about as well as the war on drugs
These people are crazy enough to kill. “More prison time” will not stop them
This reeks of conservative logic
It addresses a statistically irrelevant phenomenon while being easily marketable and unconstitutional.
If you say this in public, you are labeled a misogynistic brute, which is why everyone is so scared to oppose it.
For all the contrarians in the comments: is this a major issue in Italy? No. Its impact is overblown by a bunch of really loud people? Yes. Do italians target women that much? No, according to raw stats our homicide rate of women is low and homicide in general is an issue of the past.
Is this still a good bill? Yes, 100%. Is it good to target with this scrutiny women’s murder? Yes, 100%. For once it had bi-partisan support.
That headline made me think Italy turned into the US trying to kill women if they have an abortion
Idiotic act that will change nothing and which feminists have been protesting for months GG
Tifa would not approve of this.
Wow, that’s a pretty sexist law if I’ve ever seen one. Why wasn’t the law introduced for killing of both sexes? How the hell is that even equal rights, not to mention the legality of this? The government literally tells your life as a man worth less than that of a woman.
Is this a big problem in Italy ?
So, until now it was legal to kill women?
No?
Then what tf is the point? Like bringing in a law making it illegal to steal shoes. It’s already illegal!
Half of these ” *persons name* laws ” are utter nonsense too. Making something doubly illegal doesn’t change anything.