I wonder if the people feel your optimism when they pay more for everything.
Nano_needle on
Silence German puppet.
The treaty sucks and you can’t convince us otherwise
JimMaToo on
This whole thing is just to buy some time – or at least make the transition a bit less painfull. The USA got some good deals recently, but paid with their soft power they accumulated since WWII.
IkkeKr on
That last sentence reminds me of a Harry Potter movie… Announced by the Minister just before the Ministry falls.
It’s one of those things: if you’ve got to announce it you know you’re in trouble.
CapableCollar on
Doesn’t this deal as it is make new trade deals harder? The tariffs hurt areas like economy of scale and purchasing unfinished goods which used EU components before assembly in the US such as various machining tools. The energy deal means nations like Canada which expected to be increasing energy exports outside the US have less negotiating power and would be less interested in EU deals. The additional investments into the US reduces investment capability as part of other deals such as those France has pursued with India. It ties the EU to the US more closely and increases economic reliance between countries while making the EU a junior partner. When going to countries like Brazil to negotiate deals does he think they won’t look at those US ties and wonder exactly how much leverage the US can exert through them if the US could secure such a deal?
northck on
He’s also german. Must be a coincidence.
PoppedCork on
The EU pandered, its about time it grew some back bone
Emergency-Style7392 on
why has germany not produced any competent politicians since bismarck?
OpenTheBorders on
These people are pathetic traitors. The EU is run by the US completely. We have no autonomy.
People think someone like Orban is working for the Russians, he’s clearly tied to US intelligence. The US right wing has been anti-EU for decades, they hate us more than any other rival. US intelligence needs to be removed from the EU, kicked out.
aiart13 on
Said the most corrupted and spineless european politician.
Kobebeef9 on
And then what happens when Trump decides he isn’t happy with the deal and threatens tariffs again? Gotta learn from China and Canada in terms of fighting back.
Nice_Combination7503 on
This deal is **NOT GOOD** for us Europeans!!!
It’s OK short term, but longer term this puts a big disadvantage on European companies selling in the US, which from now on will always be an extra 15% more expensive than what a similar US company would be.
**If it doesn’t revert back soon, we need to implement a 15% tariff on ALL US services (software, social media ads, hollywood) and clearly have European alternatives ready to overtake their market share!!!**
Haunting_Switch3463 on
How is the EU strong at the moment? It seems they’ve lost more public support than ever before in the last 12 hours. This tweet gives me strong Bagdad Bob vibes.
OneRegular378 on
Obviously, nobody can be happy with the deal. Time for Europe to go our own way.
mariuszmie on
Total capitulation
Remarkable_Sea_5453 on
Sorry but EU cant even pretend to be a power any more. China held out, EU pandered.
Brazilll on
Curious when all this planning will finally pay off
1Dog117 on
That is an embarrassment, not a deal. I hope the Parliament won’t sell the EU to the US again. Trump causes so much international instability that everyone would negotiate with us for a better trade deal, yet the EU leadership seems fine with being the USA puppy. Where are the voices that call for strategic independence now?
Mekktron on
Hahahaha we have so many traitors inside EU
Limp_Classroom_2645 on
> The EU remains strong
The fuck it does, as long as American agents like von der leyen and you stay in power
Usually politicians say shit like this when they know everything is bad
Asleep-Buffalo-4055 on
It’s a sad day when Peter Thiel is proven right again:
“Europeans just react to events as they happen and hope things don’t get worse.”
HikariAnti on
They folded like a paper tissue. Literally zero resistance. We got fucked in the ass and they even said thank you!
Banzboi on
From VdL to Merz to Weber, it really seems that this isn’t just an EU deal but also mostly supported by the CDU/CSU. I am sorry that these pathetic idiots that are governing our nation have so much influence in the EU and are being entirely content with the EU being nothing but US-Vassals
MalmerDK on
We have given our lunch money to bullies.
What happens tomorrow around lunch may come as a shock to the EU.
Today they have born a disbeliever i our system.
koenwarwaal on
there are acting spinelessness, why accept 15 %, that not a deal that’s giving in, a weaker hit is still a hit
Sniffwee_Gloomshine on
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
WhereTheSpiesAt on
Who is going to try and sign a deal with the EU now to mitigate this, there is absolutely no way your getting favourable or better terms because the EU will want to rightly reassert their authority and it’ll be at the extent of countries negotiating or renegotiating deals.
They’re going to want to stand back and see if this just blows over.
davinaz49 on
This is not good, at all.
Also we cannot retaliate because Trump would declare a tariff war with us.
His current point of view is “US trade balance with EU is negative so I’ve got to catch up with that”.
Far_Pomegranate_818 on
We should just grow the EU, leave the US-EU relation. Build a strong and Independent Europe, with good relations.
Leave Giliad to Giliad
-Against-All-Gods- on
Fuck him and fuck EPP. They brought us into this position.
md_youdneverguess on
The CDU, including von der Leyen and the EPP stooges, has always put US interest before the people’s interest. He knows the trade deal is bullshit but he doesn’t care because the main goal, keeping the US at the top, has been archived for another couple years. The only thing that they spent time on was coming up with a way to spin this into a win for the media
PuzzleheadedWeb1466 on
So much copium
The EU remains strong but it need to find others partners in a rush to get stronger.
The Eu remains strong but is forced to do “damage control”
ie-redditor on
This means the opposite is true. PROPAGANDA.
Sigolon on
Traitor
bukowsky01 on
Amazing, another bootlicker… Merz, VDL, etc. Please Germany, can you do a bit better?
Foxintoxx on
“Planning security” as if Trump had respected any deal he’s ever made . What a fucking moron .
Perseus_NL on
Little shits like these.
His own country, and the other member states, sabotaged the European Commission’s mission to negotiate with Trump. They went over the Commission, around them, underneath them, and at every step of the way undercut them. And now this tough talk from Wormtongue. It’s sickening.
When push came to shove, the national capitals got scared and preferred their national self-interests above a strong EU. The world laughs. And now we also understand why the EU is weak vis-a-vis China.
cottage1909 on
I hope this deal is made with the idea that a future american president is gonna get back to their senses and makes free trade possible again. Nevertheless Weber is right in the notion, that we need to start to explore all possible markets to make us independent from the american hegenomy in future.
Tangohotel2509 on
YOU GAVE HIM WHAT HE WANTED, THERE WILL BE NO OTHER DEAL HE’LL MAKE YOU IDIOT
mar1_jj on
This is not a deal, but embarassment in it’s form.
– who will pay 600 billion for energy? Do we really need it? Is there a demand?
– who will invest 600 billion into the US? Private companies, EU, who?
– who will buy 750 billion in weapons?
How is this supposed to work? Is there any info beyond this general one?
moosetunes on
Sounds even weaker when explained.
dfchuyj on
The CDU needs to implode, I’d rather deal with the AfD crackpots using the artillery of WWI like in the “good” old times than with these idiots destroying the future of 400 million people so that 3 outdated companies can export at the expense of every other business sector.
wisdom_seek3r on
It’s difficult for the EU to gain a competitive advantage when it lacks energy independence, and competitive high technology.
badrobot16 on
Funny how everyone is now realizing what a tool VDL and Weber is, yet when Orban says the same for years they are like nah we need to kick the Hungarians out of the Union.
matthieuC on
German is happy than another german negociated a deal that was good for the German car industry.
sonspurs on
Instead of fucking complaining about these stupid tariffs it’s time to focus on ourselves and develop a much more efficient internal market. There are way more potential here than a bit of trade with the US… Come on Europe!! 🫵🙏
Wafer_Candid on
Remains strong? OK!
OffOption on
Pfft, yeah ok bro.
Maybe we start acting like we’re strong. Integrate our economies, energy grids, and so on. Lower internal barriers. Amd build up reliance on ourselves, instead of yanks or ruskies for our energy or security.
Its bullshit to pretend we can pretend we arent pressed into a corner here.
Start acting like it.
PuzzleheadedWeb1466 on
It’s all based on the idea of urgency to impose their military equipment and gas on us, and the anti-Russian hysterics are responsible.
We’ve been buying American gas on a massive scale for 3 years now, and that’s how they’ve been treating us. The EU has done virtually nothing to get rid of this dependence, arguing that it’s temporary or a lesser evil.
The same goes for weapons: American agents are stirring up the idea of an emergency, and Trump is threatening to give more support to the Ukraine to force us to arm ourselves to their advantage, destroying our last remaining tools.
lasttimechdckngths on
When you have German conservatives and the EPP in strong positions, that’s going to be what you get nonetheless. You can barely find more of US-appeasing neo-liberal scum than these bunch.
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I wonder if the people feel your optimism when they pay more for everything.
Silence German puppet.
The treaty sucks and you can’t convince us otherwise
This whole thing is just to buy some time – or at least make the transition a bit less painfull. The USA got some good deals recently, but paid with their soft power they accumulated since WWII.
That last sentence reminds me of a Harry Potter movie… Announced by the Minister just before the Ministry falls.
It’s one of those things: if you’ve got to announce it you know you’re in trouble.
Doesn’t this deal as it is make new trade deals harder? The tariffs hurt areas like economy of scale and purchasing unfinished goods which used EU components before assembly in the US such as various machining tools. The energy deal means nations like Canada which expected to be increasing energy exports outside the US have less negotiating power and would be less interested in EU deals. The additional investments into the US reduces investment capability as part of other deals such as those France has pursued with India. It ties the EU to the US more closely and increases economic reliance between countries while making the EU a junior partner. When going to countries like Brazil to negotiate deals does he think they won’t look at those US ties and wonder exactly how much leverage the US can exert through them if the US could secure such a deal?
He’s also german. Must be a coincidence.
The EU pandered, its about time it grew some back bone
why has germany not produced any competent politicians since bismarck?
These people are pathetic traitors. The EU is run by the US completely. We have no autonomy.
People think someone like Orban is working for the Russians, he’s clearly tied to US intelligence. The US right wing has been anti-EU for decades, they hate us more than any other rival. US intelligence needs to be removed from the EU, kicked out.
Said the most corrupted and spineless european politician.
And then what happens when Trump decides he isn’t happy with the deal and threatens tariffs again? Gotta learn from China and Canada in terms of fighting back.
This deal is **NOT GOOD** for us Europeans!!!
It’s OK short term, but longer term this puts a big disadvantage on European companies selling in the US, which from now on will always be an extra 15% more expensive than what a similar US company would be.
**If it doesn’t revert back soon, we need to implement a 15% tariff on ALL US services (software, social media ads, hollywood) and clearly have European alternatives ready to overtake their market share!!!**
How is the EU strong at the moment? It seems they’ve lost more public support than ever before in the last 12 hours. This tweet gives me strong Bagdad Bob vibes.
Obviously, nobody can be happy with the deal. Time for Europe to go our own way.
Total capitulation
Sorry but EU cant even pretend to be a power any more. China held out, EU pandered.
Curious when all this planning will finally pay off
That is an embarrassment, not a deal. I hope the Parliament won’t sell the EU to the US again. Trump causes so much international instability that everyone would negotiate with us for a better trade deal, yet the EU leadership seems fine with being the USA puppy. Where are the voices that call for strategic independence now?
Hahahaha we have so many traitors inside EU
> The EU remains strong
The fuck it does, as long as American agents like von der leyen and you stay in power
Usually politicians say shit like this when they know everything is bad
It’s a sad day when Peter Thiel is proven right again:
“Europeans just react to events as they happen and hope things don’t get worse.”
They folded like a paper tissue. Literally zero resistance. We got fucked in the ass and they even said thank you!
From VdL to Merz to Weber, it really seems that this isn’t just an EU deal but also mostly supported by the CDU/CSU. I am sorry that these pathetic idiots that are governing our nation have so much influence in the EU and are being entirely content with the EU being nothing but US-Vassals
We have given our lunch money to bullies.
What happens tomorrow around lunch may come as a shock to the EU.
Today they have born a disbeliever i our system.
there are acting spinelessness, why accept 15 %, that not a deal that’s giving in, a weaker hit is still a hit
Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses
Who is going to try and sign a deal with the EU now to mitigate this, there is absolutely no way your getting favourable or better terms because the EU will want to rightly reassert their authority and it’ll be at the extent of countries negotiating or renegotiating deals.
They’re going to want to stand back and see if this just blows over.
This is not good, at all.
Also we cannot retaliate because Trump would declare a tariff war with us.
His current point of view is “US trade balance with EU is negative so I’ve got to catch up with that”.
We should just grow the EU, leave the US-EU relation. Build a strong and Independent Europe, with good relations.
Leave Giliad to Giliad
Fuck him and fuck EPP. They brought us into this position.
The CDU, including von der Leyen and the EPP stooges, has always put US interest before the people’s interest. He knows the trade deal is bullshit but he doesn’t care because the main goal, keeping the US at the top, has been archived for another couple years. The only thing that they spent time on was coming up with a way to spin this into a win for the media
So much copium
The EU remains strong but it need to find others partners in a rush to get stronger.
The Eu remains strong but is forced to do “damage control”
This means the opposite is true. PROPAGANDA.
Traitor
Amazing, another bootlicker… Merz, VDL, etc. Please Germany, can you do a bit better?
“Planning security” as if Trump had respected any deal he’s ever made . What a fucking moron .
Little shits like these.
His own country, and the other member states, sabotaged the European Commission’s mission to negotiate with Trump. They went over the Commission, around them, underneath them, and at every step of the way undercut them. And now this tough talk from Wormtongue. It’s sickening.
When push came to shove, the national capitals got scared and preferred their national self-interests above a strong EU. The world laughs. And now we also understand why the EU is weak vis-a-vis China.
I hope this deal is made with the idea that a future american president is gonna get back to their senses and makes free trade possible again. Nevertheless Weber is right in the notion, that we need to start to explore all possible markets to make us independent from the american hegenomy in future.
YOU GAVE HIM WHAT HE WANTED, THERE WILL BE NO OTHER DEAL HE’LL MAKE YOU IDIOT
This is not a deal, but embarassment in it’s form.
– who will pay 600 billion for energy? Do we really need it? Is there a demand?
– who will invest 600 billion into the US? Private companies, EU, who?
– who will buy 750 billion in weapons?
How is this supposed to work? Is there any info beyond this general one?
Sounds even weaker when explained.
The CDU needs to implode, I’d rather deal with the AfD crackpots using the artillery of WWI like in the “good” old times than with these idiots destroying the future of 400 million people so that 3 outdated companies can export at the expense of every other business sector.
It’s difficult for the EU to gain a competitive advantage when it lacks energy independence, and competitive high technology.
Funny how everyone is now realizing what a tool VDL and Weber is, yet when Orban says the same for years they are like nah we need to kick the Hungarians out of the Union.
German is happy than another german negociated a deal that was good for the German car industry.
Instead of fucking complaining about these stupid tariffs it’s time to focus on ourselves and develop a much more efficient internal market. There are way more potential here than a bit of trade with the US… Come on Europe!! 🫵🙏
Remains strong? OK!
Pfft, yeah ok bro.
Maybe we start acting like we’re strong. Integrate our economies, energy grids, and so on. Lower internal barriers. Amd build up reliance on ourselves, instead of yanks or ruskies for our energy or security.
Its bullshit to pretend we can pretend we arent pressed into a corner here.
Start acting like it.
It’s all based on the idea of urgency to impose their military equipment and gas on us, and the anti-Russian hysterics are responsible.
We’ve been buying American gas on a massive scale for 3 years now, and that’s how they’ve been treating us. The EU has done virtually nothing to get rid of this dependence, arguing that it’s temporary or a lesser evil.
The same goes for weapons: American agents are stirring up the idea of an emergency, and Trump is threatening to give more support to the Ukraine to force us to arm ourselves to their advantage, destroying our last remaining tools.
When you have German conservatives and the EPP in strong positions, that’s going to be what you get nonetheless. You can barely find more of US-appeasing neo-liberal scum than these bunch.