Come ha visto chiunque sia attivo online, il Regno Unito ha recentemente coinvolto nuovi regolamenti che richiedono la verifica ID per accedere ai siti Web che contengono pornografia, violenza, discussione sul suicidio ecc. Questo da solo ha problemi, che ovviamente menzionerò di seguito, ma la mia principale preoccupazione è che è già utilizzata come censura politica.
Più persone (anche se non riesco a trovare fonti di notizie affidabili) hanno riferito che i contenuti relativi a Gaza, diritti LGBTQ, informazioni politiche oltre ai siti Web governativi ecc. Vengono censurati. Il più grande indicatore effettivo di questo, tuttavia, è Wikipedia aprendo una causa contro il governo britannico.
https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-online-safety-regime-online-children-harmful-content/
Un altro problema è che questa legge del Regno Unito e il gruppo di lobby hanno fatto collegamenti con l’American Heritage Foundation (responsabile del progetto 2025) e lo stesso Donald Trump. Ho visto pochissimi report mainstream su questo, ma una rapida navigazione attraverso alcune informazioni pubbliche ti consente di collegare urla, cessare e più attivisti politici alla Heritage Foundation.
Questo mi porta alla nuova legge dell’Irlanda, che segue più o meno la stessa vana. Stiamo proteggendo i bambini o stiamo partecipando a una campagna di censura? Ho opinioni contrastanti, ma quello che vedo certamente è che l’Irlanda sta mettendo in atto questa legge in anticipo rispetto ai requisiti aggiuntivi del Digital Service Act. Ciò sembra inutile perché il DSA avrà un’app centralizzata, consentendo a tutti gli Stati membri dell’UE di verificare i loro cittadini con passaporti o ID governativi in un sistema robusto, ciò che l’Irlanda richiederà fino ad allora? Un sistema di verifica dell’età arcaica, in cui i nostri ID, numeri di telefono o altre informazioni personali possono essere archiviati senza aderire a qualsiasi regolamento GDPR, dalla società ricevente semplicemente fuori dall’UE.
https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-makes-available-age-verification-blueprint
La legge relativa al Regno Unito è già di oltre 350.000 firme.
Could Ireland's new regulations on "Children's Online Safety" Become as much of a dramatic failure as the British regulation?
byu/Navy_Groundhog inireland
di Navy_Groundhog
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“There’d be only one website left, and it’ll be called ‘Bring Back the Porn.’”
Lively discussion on r/unitedkingdom about this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/IvdgqFfwEY
Honestly, all porn and harmful materials online must be banned effective immediately.
Not only is it bad for kids to be exposed to this stuff, adults are damaging their brains too.
It’s a known fact, men are over consuming porn and become violent or think this is how it works in real life and that creates huge problems.
Let’s ban all porn for everyone for a better future.
The UK are going to have to ban Wikipedia under the terms of their new law. These things sound good in theory but in practice are both ineffectual at protecting vulnerable Internet users and really effectual at making the Internet a worse place for minority groups and small businesses.
Agegateing is fine we do it for loads of things like drinking. Social media should (IMO) be age gated.
The two main issues are how it’s done and the edge cases where it’s harmful.
If I’m lucky enough to look young and go to a pub the bouncer might ask to see ID I hand it to him he peaks at the DOB and hands it back there’s little by way of data retention and while he could see my embarassing middle name he’s not going to commit that and every other middle name to memory. Would I prefer to see even less information shared? Absolutely and PSC in various colours could achieve this. Let’s make it a green card with a photo and name. That denotes I’m over 18 (you could make cards with free travel a different colour to help speed up checks). If anyone has gone out in Australia lately you’ll know they scan and save your ID upon entry (I’m told this is so you can be put on a barred list for an area, if you cause trouble in one venue you’re barred from all) this is far from ideal as what’s the datat retention and privacy policy of the bar that’s holding my data can I get it deleted etc.?
If there is any linkage between site used and person that is unacceptable because it will be just too tempting a target for the blackmail material imagine a school teacher down the road who’s into midget porn having that information out in public or being used against him?
The edge cases (not really edge cases) the child who knows they’re gay, knows their parents won’t be supportive and is looking for support many of the services that provide that support may find themselves behind a barrier as there will naturally be talk of a sexual nature when it comes to sexuality.
How is a website or book about the facts of life considered? I will have photos or diagrams of sexual organs and descriptions of sexual acts, how will this be handled when classifying stuff (I know it when I see it is a famous quote from a SCOTUS judge but not exactly easy to implement).
The UK legislation is easily circumvented by use of a VPN (where they likely will connect to Ireland or possibly NL for fastest speeds) this will negatively impact those of us who already use a VPN for privacy reasons nothing to do with age restricted sites.
It’s going to have to be done by a third party with no retention and done in a transparent way that can be audited.
I have nothing against having age requirements but as it stands I’m not convinced that there are safe ways to implement effective checks.
It’s the ridiculous idea that security online means having to send your photos to some website or your passport / driving licence. In fact having people generally send anything identifying even a credit card if they really don’t have to is a bad idea.
It’s quite possible. It looks like some of the regulation is quite draconian, and while we do need some, I am just not sure about the idea of some of the verification methods that are being proposed, which include scanning and storing of ID documents by websites unknown. It looks like you’d end up creating a honeypot for hackers to go after for identity theft.
Also, if Ireland ends up being the innovator on extreme digital regulation, even within the framework of EU law and the DMA etc, we could see a flight of social media companies to EU member states with lighter regulation. Reddit for example has made it very clear that it’s not regulated in Ireland, but is based in the Netherlands, specifically to avoid the Irish interpretation regulations and Coimisiún na Meán.
It’s also worth noting that while a lot of this content is damaging and needs some kind of regulation, Ireland, the UK and the US are anglophone countries with historically rather puritanical and highly conservative attitudes to this topic and to censorship. Irish officialdom’s interpretation of this may well end up being way out of line with many EU members, yet it would be our agencies who are the prime regulatory bodies for everything.
> dramatic failure
As far as I can tell the regulation did precisely what it was outlined to do, you could subjectively argue that its a failure (and people have certainly been dramatic about it) but this legislation is pretty much entirely in line with what Cameron proposed with the “Big Society” thing back in 2010? and what Blair pitched to the UK electorate back in 2002. This stuff has been in the pipeline here, the UK, the EU, and beyond for almost two decades at this point.
We’ve had four successive governments promise something along these lines, and as far as I can tell SF and any other opposition here has been basically on the same page as the government the whole time. The EU regulation that is coming down the line will probably be as successful in terms of achieving its goal, which is to start absolutely tying online activity to specific persons.
Control.