Stavo attraversando le gomme invernali e mi è venuto in mente acquistarne una nuova. Per tutta la stagione le gomme sembrano essere un buon affare. La domanda è: sarà scivoloso durante l’inverno quando arrivano senza picchi?!
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1. Yes. 2. No.
Not suitable during winter time. They’re almost as useless on icy and snowy roads as regular summer tires.
Some of them are as good as studless winter tyres, some of them are worthless. Just make sure they are 3pmsf rated, otherwise they’re illegal and very likely not good at all.
Good summer tires 😂
I drive for many years with all-year tires here in Belgium, where there is at worst a day or two of sludge on the street in winter. It is safe here, because I’m still usually the only one who has any kind of winter-capable tires anyways.
Then I made the mistake of thinking that I can just drive these up to Finland in winter. Luckily the neighbor has a tractor and could pull me out of the ditch. Three times in a row.
Do yourself a favour and get some proper winter tires. Seriously.
Not sure why people are saying these are allowed, my understanding was that those lack the required marking.
Edit ok apparently those are 3pmsf. Still, you should get proper winter tyres for your safety….
“The winter tyre is marked M + S, M.S or M & S (the letters M and S stand for mud and snow). Winter tyres with the 3PMSF (3PeakMountainSnowFlake) marking (the “mountain marking”) are type-approved for demanding winter conditions and meet the standard’s requirement for snow traction.
From 1 December 2024, the M + S marking alone will no longer be sufficient for winter tyres. All winter tyres will have to be type-approved for demanding winter conditions, i.e. they must have the mountain marking or be studded. A POR-marked tyre for off-road use is also accepted as a winter tyre. In Class O2 trailers, M+S-marked winter tyres will be accepted until 30 November 2029.”
All season tyres are illegal to drive in winter. You need winter tires with or without studs.
No.
Just my personal opinion…. All tires with 3pmsf marking are fine in the winter days. Although all winter tires are not equal. These “all season” tires that we call “kitkarengas” are more suited for city driving and the south of Finland, as there is lot less snow and ice there. If you drive a lot on highways and in more northern parts i personally would choose studded tires. Normal all seasons barely have any grip if the road is just icy imo.
TLDR: depends on your location, driving routines and skill
While they are legal, No they are pretty much useless.
All reasons work well in regions where there is lot of salt used, for melting the ice and snow on the roads, Finland that is not the case.
All seasons also work quite well when there is only light snow, and very mild chill, just below freezing. Finland you do get those days, but there is whole lot of actually cold days.
Studless now tires work with soft compound, and lot of siping… to pack as much snow in to the sipes, which in turn stick to the snow on ground. They aren’t that great at removing water or slush that you might drive over.
All seasons are great at removing slush and water… but they don’t stick to the snow or ice almost at all, thanks to low amount of siping, and much harder rubber compound.
I think it is against the law during winter, as you need proper winter tires. They are probably suitable during fall, summer and spring when there is no snow or ice on the road
Have you been to Finland during winter?
Unless you are going off roading or don’t know how to drive during the winter you will be fine. Winter tires are a scam for tire hotels.
I threw the winter and summer tires that came with my car away 7 years ago and have been fine.
Good luck explaining why you crashed with those during winter to your insurance, these tires aren’t suitable for winter, even if they class as legal. You should absolutely not play with your life.
In the summer, sure.
In winter you are required by law to have winter tires
They can serve as bad summer tires.
On winter do others a favor and don’t hit anyone else when you crash with those.
Do not buy this kind of shit
Wouldn’t even drive them in summer time. They arent optimal for anything. Winter tires save lives and cheapskating on icy roads doesn’t save lives.
I had a set of good all-season tires on my car when I moved here. There was still plenty of tread on them and it was legal (my car went through inspection on a snowy day with them on), but even in Helsinki when it started to snow, I was blocking everyone at the traffic lights as I was struggling to move when the light changed green. I drove a total of maybe 10 kms on them, the last two being from my home to the nearest tire place.
Since I already had them, I used them as my summer tires.
They are of course better than summer tires, and legal too. They do well in deep snow (I drove them for many seasons in the Scottish Highlands) but they are pretty bad on the ice, or compacted snow – like in those places under the traffic lights that turn into slippery pad within an hour after the snowfall started.
Buy the proper winter tires (even non-studded), it is a game changer. If you don’t want two sets of tires beacuse you don’t drive too much, you can keep the non-studded one) on your car over the summer, I see many locals doing that.
You can call them no season tires here. Tractiontires/studs or gtfo, or leave the driving for summer really. Central european winter climate is nothing like the conditions can be up north.
Yes, they will be quite slippery.