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    L’utilizzo di prese di potenza di tipo F invece di Type-E sono legali?


    Quindi ho appena letto questo articolo: https://www.worldstandards.eu/nl/elektriciteit/landenoverzich-stekkers-oltage/belgie/

    e ha scoperto che è apparentemente illegale utilizzare le prese di tipo F (a parete) da utilizzare nelle case belghe. Ora ho alcune altre domande a cui non sono riuscito a trovare la risposta nell’articolo originale e spero di trovare più risposte qui.

    1. Mi chiedo se c’è qualcuno che sappia qual è il motivo e quali sono le conseguenze di usarlo in termini di assicurazione.
      Personalmente preferisco di gran lunga il tipo F a causa della flessibilità che offre, ma ovviamente non voglio mettere a repentaglio la mia assicurazione in caso di necessità, solo per maggiore comodità.

    2. Si applica sia all’uso di prese a parete sia per l’uso di tappi di estensione/strip di alimentazione/prese intelligenti?

    3. Se dovessi installare o ho installato una presa di tipo F (con accordo orale) nella casa di qualcun altro, posso essere ritenuto responsabile di coprire l’assicurazione dell’altra persona?
      In tal caso, cosa posso fare (ufficialmente) per non essere più responsabile?

    Is using Type-F power sockets instead of Type-E legal?
    byu/SkyGuy501 inbelgium



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    1. Harde_Kassei on

      1. you cant use them because the AREI states you can’t. if a inspector finds it he can give a negative advice and reject the installation.

      2. any fixed socket usually falls under these laws. if you get a extended plug box of that kind, the inspector has nothing to do with that.

      3. most likely, because technically you need to get the installation re-inspected because you made adjustments to the existingt electrics of the house. this will come up short then and will be your fault as a contractor. as you are bound by the AREI for work.

      also seems more for r/klussers

    2. RedC_1908 on

      It’s possible that I overlooked it but where does it say it is ilegal?

      Edit: ok found it!

      Now, I recenly did a renovation of my home and my electrical installation has been approved and I only have the F-type sockets. I even have it approved a 2nd time a few years later when I did a modification. Both of them followed the AREI and I got no remarks about it.

      A quick Google Search:

      Een F-stopcontact, ook wel bekend als een randaarde stopcontact, is het type stopcontact dat in België verplicht is volgens het Algemeen Reglement op de [Elektrische Installaties](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&cs=0&sca_esv=47b16ba36d203663&sxsrf=AE3TifPwrEYTQS7asLSymi2wNZR64bNkWg%3A1753862846464&q=Elektrische+Installaties&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkiLGfkOSOAxX7lP0HHf6XEkkQxccNegQIAhAB&mstk=AUtExfAqBVsGfmmrMTt7U_LQsujnCZBhfSc7zh48FJptSBTIb5vaEJ0L55RFB7AiFc50FMjozhW9A5C2AoUDZ6hJKX6eEFyLutJHwb6eDxmiJxH4WnGUTJvHPyNYInlHu5M4agwHxQWKMKx4dzQwlvJD4sPRph3DjuuZEsBKlSAAdUxe6Zw&csui=3) (AREI). Het is een geaard stopcontact dat extra veiligheid biedt tegen elektrocutie door de randaarde die de stroom bij kortsluiting of lekstroom naar de aarde afvoert. Belangrijkste punten over F-stopcontacten in het AREI:

      * [**Geaardheid**](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&cs=0&sca_esv=47b16ba36d203663&sxsrf=AE3TifPwrEYTQS7asLSymi2wNZR64bNkWg%3A1753862846464&q=Geaardheid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkiLGfkOSOAxX7lP0HHf6XEkkQxccNegQICxAB&mstk=AUtExfAqBVsGfmmrMTt7U_LQsujnCZBhfSc7zh48FJptSBTIb5vaEJ0L55RFB7AiFc50FMjozhW9A5C2AoUDZ6hJKX6eEFyLutJHwb6eDxmiJxH4WnGUTJvHPyNYInlHu5M4agwHxQWKMKx4dzQwlvJD4sPRph3DjuuZEsBKlSAAdUxe6Zw&csui=3)**:**Het AREI vereist dat alle huishoudelijke stopcontacten geaard zijn, wat betekent dat ze voorzien moeten zijn van een randaarde. 
      * [**Kinderveiligheid**](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&cs=0&sca_esv=47b16ba36d203663&sxsrf=AE3TifPwrEYTQS7asLSymi2wNZR64bNkWg%3A1753862846464&q=Kinderveiligheid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkiLGfkOSOAxX7lP0HHf6XEkkQxccNegQIDhAB&mstk=AUtExfAqBVsGfmmrMTt7U_LQsujnCZBhfSc7zh48FJptSBTIb5vaEJ0L55RFB7AiFc50FMjozhW9A5C2AoUDZ6hJKX6eEFyLutJHwb6eDxmiJxH4WnGUTJvHPyNYInlHu5M4agwHxQWKMKx4dzQwlvJD4sPRph3DjuuZEsBKlSAAdUxe6Zw&csui=3)**:**Stopcontacten moeten ook kinderveilig zijn, wat kan worden bereikt door een ingebouwde kinderveiligheid of een ander gelijkwaardig systeem, zoals een schakelaar of pilootcontact, [volgens Stroohm](https://www.stroohm.be/verbod-industriele-stekkers-thuis/). 
      * **Aantal per kring:**Er mogen maximaal 8 contactdozen (stopcontacten of schakelaars) per elektrische kring geïnstalleerd worden. 
      * **Differentieelschakelaar:**Het AREI schrijft voor dat er in de zekeringkast een [differentieelschakelaar](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&cs=0&sca_esv=47b16ba36d203663&sxsrf=AE3TifPwrEYTQS7asLSymi2wNZR64bNkWg%3A1753862846464&q=differentieelschakelaar&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkiLGfkOSOAxX7lP0HHf6XEkkQxccNegQIFRAB&mstk=AUtExfAqBVsGfmmrMTt7U_LQsujnCZBhfSc7zh48FJptSBTIb5vaEJ0L55RFB7AiFc50FMjozhW9A5C2AoUDZ6hJKX6eEFyLutJHwb6eDxmiJxH4WnGUTJvHPyNYInlHu5M4agwHxQWKMKx4dzQwlvJD4sPRph3DjuuZEsBKlSAAdUxe6Zw&csui=3) (ook wel aardlekschakelaar of verliesstroomschakelaar genoemd) moet zijn om elektrocutie te voorkomen. 
      * **Laadpalen:**Voor laadpalen is een [type B aardlekschakelaar](https://www.google.com/search?safe=active&cs=0&sca_esv=47b16ba36d203663&sxsrf=AE3TifPwrEYTQS7asLSymi2wNZR64bNkWg%3A1753862846464&q=type+B+aardlekschakelaar&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjkiLGfkOSOAxX7lP0HHf6XEkkQxccNegQIExAB&mstk=AUtExfAqBVsGfmmrMTt7U_LQsujnCZBhfSc7zh48FJptSBTIb5vaEJ0L55RFB7AiFc50FMjozhW9A5C2AoUDZ6hJKX6eEFyLutJHwb6eDxmiJxH4WnGUTJvHPyNYInlHu5M4agwHxQWKMKx4dzQwlvJD4sPRph3DjuuZEsBKlSAAdUxe6Zw&csui=3) verplicht, die een lekstroom van maximaal 30mA detecteert, [volgens Electro-Colli](https://webshop.electro-colli.be/welke-aardlekschakelaar-laadpaal/). 

    3. No_Click_7880 on

      1. I don’t know the reasons and I’d also prefer type F. BUT, it is not allowed according to AREI and will give issues with “keuring”. No “keuring” = not good for insurance.

      2. Yes, and if you use a Type F power strip that causes a fire, it will give issues with insurance.

      3. Depends, if you install this as a professional, yes you can be held accountable. (I sincerely hope you are not a professional). If as a friend (aka unofficially), no.

      Just use type E dude, the rules are the rules. Your preference is irrelevant.

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