They attacked and damaged military equipment used for protecting this nation.
They are traitors working for a foreign entity.
How they’re not on trial for treason and in prison is beyond me.
Deadliftdeadlife on
Good luck
Honestly, if you cared about Palestine you’d support any other pro Palestine group that didn’t attack a uk military base
To me this just shows it’s entirely performative, it’s not about Palestine, it’s about themselves
Minimum-Geologist-58 on
Do we have to go through this every time? That it ends up with the Supreme Court and they say “it’s a prerogative of the Home Secretary and the lower courts should have kept their nose out?”
EDIT: and just to make it clear I don’t think it’s judicial activism, I think it’s judicial back covering. Hence the nonsense ruling: it’s obvious our *counter terrorism* legislation doesn’t have a requirement to consult within it!
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LordUpton on
“But in his ruling, Mr Justice Chamberlain said that the ban might conflict with rights to free speech and the Home Secretary could have consulted Palestine Action before going ahead.”
Give me a moment I’m going to inform al-qaeda, Isis, and the Iranian revolutionary guard that they can also appeal because I’m pretty sure they were never consulted either.
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This is a welcome development. Even Government advisors thought the decision to proscribe PA was quite stretched.
They should have been dealt with as criminals not as terrorists. And definitely those arguing against the decision should not have been dealt with as terrorist supporters (what harm a placard holding person can do?).
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callsignhotdog on
One of the nice thing about living in a Democracy is you have the legal right to appeal a potentially unjust ruling. The price of that right is that even people you may not agree with also get that right. That’s why they’re Rights, and not Privileges.
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I think that many commenters in this thread need reminding that even the worst people who you don’t like have the same right to legal protection and due process that you do. Picking and choosing who is deserving of this leads down a very dark path indeed.
Not that I think this will get anywhere. As far as I see, the law is pretty clear cut, but I am not a legal expert on these kinds of things.
kaetror on
Honestly, is this surprising?
With leaked/released documents showing the plan to proscribe PA was already in motion before their stunt at Brize Norton, it’s clear the entire thing stinks.
The home secretary made a big show of “we can’t have these groups attacking our military equipment” as justification, but that turns out to just be fortuitous timing.
This was already being planned, and there was a lot of involvement from Israeli adjacent lobby groups, targeting a group that is completely incomparable to other proscribed groups. It’s such a broad brush approach, which is leading to police targeting people who show support for Palestine in general, not just PA.
The assault on free speech is massive, and I can see there being a climb down in the near future when the government realise the can of worms they’ve opened.
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They attacked and damaged military equipment used for protecting this nation.
They are traitors working for a foreign entity.
How they’re not on trial for treason and in prison is beyond me.
Good luck
Honestly, if you cared about Palestine you’d support any other pro Palestine group that didn’t attack a uk military base
To me this just shows it’s entirely performative, it’s not about Palestine, it’s about themselves
Do we have to go through this every time? That it ends up with the Supreme Court and they say “it’s a prerogative of the Home Secretary and the lower courts should have kept their nose out?”
EDIT: and just to make it clear I don’t think it’s judicial activism, I think it’s judicial back covering. Hence the nonsense ruling: it’s obvious our *counter terrorism* legislation doesn’t have a requirement to consult within it!
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“But in his ruling, Mr Justice Chamberlain said that the ban might conflict with rights to free speech and the Home Secretary could have consulted Palestine Action before going ahead.”
Give me a moment I’m going to inform al-qaeda, Isis, and the Iranian revolutionary guard that they can also appeal because I’m pretty sure they were never consulted either.
This is a welcome development. Even Government advisors thought the decision to proscribe PA was quite stretched.
https://www.reddit.com/r/unitedkingdom/s/WiHho543OA
They should have been dealt with as criminals not as terrorists. And definitely those arguing against the decision should not have been dealt with as terrorist supporters (what harm a placard holding person can do?).
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One of the nice thing about living in a Democracy is you have the legal right to appeal a potentially unjust ruling. The price of that right is that even people you may not agree with also get that right. That’s why they’re Rights, and not Privileges.
I think that many commenters in this thread need reminding that even the worst people who you don’t like have the same right to legal protection and due process that you do. Picking and choosing who is deserving of this leads down a very dark path indeed.
Not that I think this will get anywhere. As far as I see, the law is pretty clear cut, but I am not a legal expert on these kinds of things.
Honestly, is this surprising?
With leaked/released documents showing the plan to proscribe PA was already in motion before their stunt at Brize Norton, it’s clear the entire thing stinks.
The home secretary made a big show of “we can’t have these groups attacking our military equipment” as justification, but that turns out to just be fortuitous timing.
This was already being planned, and there was a lot of involvement from Israeli adjacent lobby groups, targeting a group that is completely incomparable to other proscribed groups. It’s such a broad brush approach, which is leading to police targeting people who show support for Palestine in general, not just PA.
The assault on free speech is massive, and I can see there being a climb down in the near future when the government realise the can of worms they’ve opened.