Il nuovo appartamento e la bolletta dell’elettricità del primo mese sono 133,00eur per 2 persone 110m², è un errore o un prezzo equo? Prima volta inquilino.
Il nuovo appartamento e la bolletta dell’elettricità del primo mese sono 133,00eur per 2 persone 110m², è un errore o un prezzo equo? Prima volta inquilino.
That is the prepayment you do every month. You can in theory adjust that. It depends on th consumption and it will be calculated in the end of the year.
Pri4pi on
It is a lot, I keep my lights on all the time, my pc as well and I pay 85 EUR per month.
monkeypunch87 on
Depends on how much the tenant before you used. It will change after the first yearly invoice.
blue_furred_unicorn on
Seems more or less normal. I wouldn’t ask to pay much less, since you will pay for what you actually used this year in the beginning of next year, and it’s better to get something back from your monthly installments than suddenly having to pay a lot of money at once because your installments were too small.
If you’re really paying too much now, you’ll get it back and you can lower the installments next year.
SiBloGaming on
Doesnt look too far off for the price per kwh on average in 2024
It is not too far off. For 70-80 m^2 we pay 78€/mon and 145€/mon in two places (2nd has plenty electrical heating).
The important part is that there is a reckoning after the year and you get a refund if you paid too much monthly “Abschlag”
Inevitable_Count1634 on
It’s definitely not cheap… But the state energy provider are more expensive, most of the time… I would strongly consider to look for a cheaper one
Accomplished_Tip3597 on
Well that company definitely isn’t the cheapest but you should also check how much kWh you need per year.
MissAuriel on
You only posted their price table with the yearly cost (from 122,09 to 192,24 / year depending on the contract you choose). This is not a bill? You also do not get a monthly bill here. Which contract did you sign up for? There it should say when the monthly prepayments are due. I recommend just giving them the “Einzugsermächtigung” so they get it directly from your account and you will not accidentally forget payment just because you don’t get a bill every month. Once a year what you paid is being calculated vs what you used and you pay extra or get money back depending on usage.
inetkid13 on
Prices are fine. you pay monthly – it’s called ‚Abschlag’ but at the end of the year it will be checked how much you really used and only have to pay that. So you might get a refund after a year and your monthly payment will be adjusted accordingly.
Jaba01 on
Do you have a boiler?
piddlepoodlewastaken on
Your Arbeitspreis (price per kWh) and Grundpreis (monthly base fee) look normal.
A bill of 133 € suggests a monthly usage of over 400 kWh. That’s high for two people unless you have an electric car or a heat pump. Most two-person households use about 40% of that.
Also, electricity companies don’t bill you for actual usage each month. They charge a fixed monthly amount based on the annual consumption you estimated when signing the contract. They adjust it once a year after reading your meter.
So, your first bill is likely just the agreed monthly advance payment, not your real first-month usage. Did you enter around 5,000 kWh/year as your expected consumption?
Lucky_Difference_140 on
Any surplus above your actual consumption will be refunded at the end of the year. It’s a prepayment, and once they (or you) notice you actually consume less, you can adjust to a lower prepayment that matches your consumption.
LARRY_Xilo on
So a few things. The bill is a pre payment and once a year either there will be someone coming to your house to read the electricity meter or you will be told to do that your self and send them the correct amount. After that you will be send a final bill for the actuall amount you used.
The 133€ is a prediction without them knowing how much you actually used. Usually you are able to adjust the prepayment either on the website or by calling them. If you want to know how much you should be paying read what your meter says know and then look again after a month. That you can multiply with the ct/kwh from the “arbeitspreis” and add to that 1/12 of the “grundpreis”. This should give you a solid understanding of how much you need to pay. Though ofcourse there are differences in usage in winter and summer especially if you use electricity for water heating or even general heating.
I would say the prices in the screenshot are fair for Germany but you can always have a look at a side like check24 and compare what other companies over for your area.
raviel993 on
Well as most of the people said, the amount you pay each month is just a prediction, after a year they would calculate how much you’ve actually used and either ask you to pay the difference or they’d pay you back. You pay almost 32 cents per Kwh which is normal but a bit high, I personally pay 29 cents. You can use check 24 to find something a bit cheaper. It wouldn’t be that huge of a difference at the end of the year though.
The important thing is to check how many Kwh you spend a month and calculate from there.
Best of luck
EasternChard7835 on
Might be too high. Just wait a few weeks, see how much you use in reality and have it corrected. Anyhow you will get it back after one year, if you use less. We have 95€ for a family of four, water heating is not electric.
sc_santy on
They do not know what your consumption would be. They are continuing what they used to collect for previous tenant. If you think your consumption would be lower, you can send an email to them to reduce the slab.
For me, I knew I don’t use much electricity, so I asked them to reduce it.
grogi81 on
133€= 14€ for the meter, 119€ for electricity. At 0.32€ / kWh that gives ~375kWh. For an apartment, without e-car – that is a lot.
Fav0 on
110 m2
Wow
xiartus on
Ich zahle 75€ pro Monat. Für 2 Menschen. Habe ähnlichen kW und arbeitspreis. 133€ klingt ein bisschen hoch, kommt aber auf euren Verbrauch an. Ich würde immer lieber mehr abschlag zahlen (also einfach 133€ lassen, wenn möglich). Nach einem Jahr gibt’s dann alles was zu viel gezahlt wurde zurück. Ist immer besser als 50€ abschlag und dann 600€ nachzahlen
YetAnotherGuy2 on
We have 160 with 4 people and we pay 180/month so 130 for two sounds reasonable.
As others have said, this is prepaid and they are required to take more than what they estimate you will actually use by law. Typically they use the previous tenants consumption as baseline until they know what you actually consume.
If you want to keep an eye on things, the easiest is to get plugs with electricity counters. If you can, most modern electricity counters typically have an interface you can tap into and track your consumption yourself. Between those two, you get a sense of your baseline consumption and where it comes from.
A lot of our consumption comes from me operating a little raspberry pi farm for home automation and such. While it’s not much in itself compared to what a washing machine or dish washers takes, the consistent 24/7 consumption adds up.
Ok_Distribution2345 on
Welcome to green energy.
OGinkki on
In short, yes, electricity is expensive in Germany.
AzertyQwertyQwertz on
For reference, I have a similar profile and we spend around 1900kWh per year. Our price is arou d 29 cents/kWh(netto) and we pay around 70€/month with e.on.
picawo99 on
Make record of counter in 1 month and send pictures to company, they will decrease the price.
ResponsibilityNo4253 on
actually a question , in the Netherlands I could easily read my meter remotely. Actually my provider could also do it , so I could easily see my usage pattern . Isn’t this a thing on Germany ? I couldn’t find any. On the usage , we are two full time workers spending 80% at home. I have a heavy gaming PC and heavy TV and entertainment system plus all the other stuff. Currently we sit at 3400KW from last year. 4 years ago that value was 2000KW . So I am a bit confused on how this happened .
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How much kWH/year did you ask for?
That is the prepayment you do every month. You can in theory adjust that. It depends on th consumption and it will be calculated in the end of the year.
It is a lot, I keep my lights on all the time, my pc as well and I pay 85 EUR per month.
Depends on how much the tenant before you used. It will change after the first yearly invoice.
Seems more or less normal. I wouldn’t ask to pay much less, since you will pay for what you actually used this year in the beginning of next year, and it’s better to get something back from your monthly installments than suddenly having to pay a lot of money at once because your installments were too small.
If you’re really paying too much now, you’ll get it back and you can lower the installments next year.
Doesnt look too far off for the price per kwh on average in 2024
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It is not too far off. For 70-80 m^2 we pay 78€/mon and 145€/mon in two places (2nd has plenty electrical heating).
The important part is that there is a reckoning after the year and you get a refund if you paid too much monthly “Abschlag”
It’s definitely not cheap… But the state energy provider are more expensive, most of the time… I would strongly consider to look for a cheaper one
Well that company definitely isn’t the cheapest but you should also check how much kWh you need per year.
You only posted their price table with the yearly cost (from 122,09 to 192,24 / year depending on the contract you choose). This is not a bill? You also do not get a monthly bill here. Which contract did you sign up for? There it should say when the monthly prepayments are due. I recommend just giving them the “Einzugsermächtigung” so they get it directly from your account and you will not accidentally forget payment just because you don’t get a bill every month. Once a year what you paid is being calculated vs what you used and you pay extra or get money back depending on usage.
Prices are fine. you pay monthly – it’s called ‚Abschlag’ but at the end of the year it will be checked how much you really used and only have to pay that. So you might get a refund after a year and your monthly payment will be adjusted accordingly.
Do you have a boiler?
Your Arbeitspreis (price per kWh) and Grundpreis (monthly base fee) look normal.
A bill of 133 € suggests a monthly usage of over 400 kWh. That’s high for two people unless you have an electric car or a heat pump. Most two-person households use about 40% of that.
Also, electricity companies don’t bill you for actual usage each month. They charge a fixed monthly amount based on the annual consumption you estimated when signing the contract. They adjust it once a year after reading your meter.
So, your first bill is likely just the agreed monthly advance payment, not your real first-month usage. Did you enter around 5,000 kWh/year as your expected consumption?
Any surplus above your actual consumption will be refunded at the end of the year. It’s a prepayment, and once they (or you) notice you actually consume less, you can adjust to a lower prepayment that matches your consumption.
So a few things. The bill is a pre payment and once a year either there will be someone coming to your house to read the electricity meter or you will be told to do that your self and send them the correct amount. After that you will be send a final bill for the actuall amount you used.
The 133€ is a prediction without them knowing how much you actually used. Usually you are able to adjust the prepayment either on the website or by calling them. If you want to know how much you should be paying read what your meter says know and then look again after a month. That you can multiply with the ct/kwh from the “arbeitspreis” and add to that 1/12 of the “grundpreis”. This should give you a solid understanding of how much you need to pay. Though ofcourse there are differences in usage in winter and summer especially if you use electricity for water heating or even general heating.
I would say the prices in the screenshot are fair for Germany but you can always have a look at a side like check24 and compare what other companies over for your area.
Well as most of the people said, the amount you pay each month is just a prediction, after a year they would calculate how much you’ve actually used and either ask you to pay the difference or they’d pay you back. You pay almost 32 cents per Kwh which is normal but a bit high, I personally pay 29 cents. You can use check 24 to find something a bit cheaper. It wouldn’t be that huge of a difference at the end of the year though.
The important thing is to check how many Kwh you spend a month and calculate from there.
Best of luck
Might be too high. Just wait a few weeks, see how much you use in reality and have it corrected. Anyhow you will get it back after one year, if you use less. We have 95€ for a family of four, water heating is not electric.
They do not know what your consumption would be. They are continuing what they used to collect for previous tenant. If you think your consumption would be lower, you can send an email to them to reduce the slab.
For me, I knew I don’t use much electricity, so I asked them to reduce it.
133€= 14€ for the meter, 119€ for electricity. At 0.32€ / kWh that gives ~375kWh. For an apartment, without e-car – that is a lot.
110 m2
Wow
Ich zahle 75€ pro Monat. Für 2 Menschen. Habe ähnlichen kW und arbeitspreis. 133€ klingt ein bisschen hoch, kommt aber auf euren Verbrauch an. Ich würde immer lieber mehr abschlag zahlen (also einfach 133€ lassen, wenn möglich). Nach einem Jahr gibt’s dann alles was zu viel gezahlt wurde zurück. Ist immer besser als 50€ abschlag und dann 600€ nachzahlen
We have 160 with 4 people and we pay 180/month so 130 for two sounds reasonable.
As others have said, this is prepaid and they are required to take more than what they estimate you will actually use by law. Typically they use the previous tenants consumption as baseline until they know what you actually consume.
If you want to keep an eye on things, the easiest is to get plugs with electricity counters. If you can, most modern electricity counters typically have an interface you can tap into and track your consumption yourself. Between those two, you get a sense of your baseline consumption and where it comes from.
A lot of our consumption comes from me operating a little raspberry pi farm for home automation and such. While it’s not much in itself compared to what a washing machine or dish washers takes, the consistent 24/7 consumption adds up.
Welcome to green energy.
In short, yes, electricity is expensive in Germany.
For reference, I have a similar profile and we spend around 1900kWh per year. Our price is arou d 29 cents/kWh(netto) and we pay around 70€/month with e.on.
Make record of counter in 1 month and send pictures to company, they will decrease the price.
actually a question , in the Netherlands I could easily read my meter remotely. Actually my provider could also do it , so I could easily see my usage pattern . Isn’t this a thing on Germany ? I couldn’t find any. On the usage , we are two full time workers spending 80% at home. I have a heavy gaming PC and heavy TV and entertainment system plus all the other stuff. Currently we sit at 3400KW from last year. 4 years ago that value was 2000KW . So I am a bit confused on how this happened .