Regolamenti per l’accesso a oltre 18 siti
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Regolamenti per l’accesso a oltre 18 siti
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there shouldn’t be such a law at all
It’s not that.
Isnt this was it used to be?
“Identify by a miniscule CC charge” rather than “Identify by ID”
If so, how is that better??
Whos gonna block me from the +18 part of internet if i dont identify? I believe net neutrality says isps cant do this. Also, you cant make your isp or the internet itself block all 18+ content. Thats just not feasible.
Id be more happy with an idin (or eIDAS ) like system that content providers can adopt, provided the content provider only receives an approved 18+ and no personal data. Although logging your validations on the idin (like) side are a major concern there.
Edit: spelling + added eIDAS as idin is just Dutch afaik
What it **really** should be:
Nothing.
How is making a credit card payment more private than an ID verification?
But a 0€ should come from an account no?
What it should be: nothing.
Everyone is saying the EU’s hammer is very well designed but I say, and this is maybe controversial, when you want to prevent a nail from being nailed in it’s a very bad idea to hand the EU a hammer.
Once again looking for a techno-legal solution to poor parenting.
This doesn’t exist.
If the parents don’t want to parent then no matter what technical or legal solutions are put in place kids will find a way around it.
Conversely, if parents are invested in parenting then there already plenty of viable technical aids they can use without requiring any laws.
This whole debate is predicated on the false premise that it is the governments job to raise our kids. It isn’t.
So pay with your moms credit card?
No, it shouldn’t be blocked at all
just let the internet be free please
i’m pretty sure it’s:
* if you’re a parent: enable family controls on your devices & wifi if you’re concerned about your kid watching stuff you don’t want them to
* else: people are grown adults
All that is not needed. If someone would like to apply any limits it must be done on device by parents.
No it should not. It’s nonsense. You are trying to solve small problem so you could pretend that you do “something”. Ignoring actual one.
And both are easily bypassed by using proxies or VPNs. If you don’t want your child to watch porn it’s your responsibility, not the government’s
There should be no such thing. But I’m going to throw a weird case out too:
I am 22 and don’t have a credit card, I’ve had the same type of debit card since I was 16 and will keep getting this type until I am 30, at least. How will the payment processor know I am not still 16?
Why can I only provide ID if I have the piece of plastic that can get me in debt? With the not-too-distant proliferation of fully-online payment services, a credit card number may not be as universal as it is now.
No thanks to all of it.
Or just don’t have the regulation entirely. No one’s dying because they saw boobs on a website.
It shouldn’t be blocked at all.
How about this: The internet should be free and no means of obligatory deanonymization should be given neither to companies nor to governments.
This thing from Estonia is already doing it https://www.skidsolutions.eu/services/authentigate/
This is dumb. A CC or debit for that matter leaves a clear trace to whoever owns it. As far as I know it also doesn’t age check but that could be implemented although it’s irrelevant.
An id check can be made totally anonymous so there’s no way to trace who the user is, just that they’ve verified that they’re 18.
What it **REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY** should be:
Let parents do their duty and assume responsability if they can’t watch their sons properly.
I don’t want my bank, government or anyone to know that I’m consuming porn daily.
Next time when I talk to my wife she asks me, what is this 0€ payment to Big Black pussy destroyers.
This is not a solution at all. Btw, not everyone has a credit card, but kids can already have debit cards when they are like 14. And credit cards are not used that much in the EU.
Kids that want to watch porn are the same as the kids that masturbated to the dirty magazines in the 90’s and 80’s hek even 60’s and 70’s.
Its not something you just stumble up to, it’s something you want to find.
Maybe parents should talk with their kids, install parenting control on the devices etc. But we are lazy, prude and afraid to talk to our kids.
Are we now also going to pay 0€ when we want to play an 18+ game, because anyone can buy it?
I hear my kid talking about kids in school that are 7 years old and watched the Squid Games, 5 nights at Freddie’s etc. But yeah 18+ killing shit is not a problem but nipples are.
I think Rammstein was right, we are living in America.
No, what it should be is nonexistent. It’s a total invasion of privacy.
You already need to verify your identity to register for online banking (Revolut, Monzo, etc) online stockbrokers, online gambling sites.
Why is everyone outraged and drawing the line at porn?
To access anything 18+ irl you need to prove your identity, to access anything 18+ online except porn you need to prove your identity, porn so far is a weird oversight only because there’s no AML or KYC laws around porn, it’s a loophole that’s being closed.
It’s always “Child protection” that is abused to install more and more censorship and surveillance in the EU.
If I understand this correctly, make parents responsible for blocking the content they don’t want their children to see. Possible fines for delinquency, works for me.
maybe make rules for routers / operating systems that parental controls should follow a similar design and structure so that its easy to setup on your kids devices given that clearly karens don’t stop their children from going on cornhub on their ipads
No, just NO. The Internet should be free.
How about:
1) Create whitelist of childsafe websites for different age groups.
2) Strongly recommend or even force(up to the states) parents to install them on devices that the child has access to.
3) Make it possible to use local admin pin to unlock a device in a common area, for example Smart TV
No personal data stored? Like one’s age or payment info? I’m confused. I would not trust a centralized system like this. It’s one giant single point of failure for anyone dedicated to it.
this is why this regulation is not at all about protecting children. it should be a block list at isp or router level that you can opt devices out of
What is this nonsense?
We don’t need enforced id control by the state
What if parents raised their children
What is an 18+ website?
If you want to blacklist them, you must also recognize them
I don’t understand how porn is still 18+. It’s closing our eyes at reality and holding onto old purity ideals.
Also allowing/disallowing cookies should’ve been handled through a legally binding browser setting rather than each and every website implementing their own annoying cookie banner.