Greeks are wonderful people and they deserve to thrive
InsideHousing4965 on
Bold of you to assume the greek government won’t mess up once they feel confident about their debt being low enough.
Start as old as time. Government fucks up. Citizens suffer. The problem gets fixed through the years. The government decides to do the same for some reason. Repeat.
Automatic_Walrus3729 on
If this trend keeps up I’m going to live forever.
Loose_Mood4971 on
Is this to do with gdp growth or debt being paid off though?
omnibossk on
Love Greece, they have a lot of competent people
WinnerImaginary on
just imagine where they would be now if they sold Parthenon
Hanekam on
If
Professional_Ant4133 on
Greece started taxing the fuck otta short term rentals (15, 35, and 45%), which I assume is one of the reasons their debt is goen down.
It’s terrible for foreign investors and Greeks that live off tourism tho.
Swimming-Addendum240 on
Which means very little in the scheme of things. Overall, if the economy is strong the debt to gdp means little to nothing.
Which is why I welcome the new ECB tools for Eurozone. If an economy is even slightly healthy (economic growth of 1%+ over a year or more), taking on debt will boost the economy. Which is why Finland will use this tool to leverage our economy to a better growth path – from 1.6% annual to 3-5%.
One doesn’t have to go as far as Japan or the US that have basically lived on borrowed money for decades to know that this indicator is somewhat faulty.
I’m waiting for the new ECB tools to kick in and let the Eurozone countries leverage that for growth.
ETA
Before anyone gets to say that this new debt from the ECB is somehow in vain or used to prop up existing money draining structures – here how Finland uses it (it’s all public information):
-low-cost funding, enabling lending to businesses
-cash injections in combination with venture funding for new start-ups
-lowers interest rates in Finland to enable further start-ups/innovation/companies
-Maintains market confidence and further outside investments for new (and existing) industries
(Finnish pension system and healthcare system partially are managed separately outside yearly government spending – namely: Large international pooled **investment portfolios. Which is why Finnish pensions or healthcare** are always well funded without any excessive support from the goverment.)
No-Low-3947 on
Kinda a must, if they want to pay back their enormous debt.
dat_9600gt_user on
It’s honestly incredible how much debt they’ve managed to shave off
MartaLSFitness on
Damn! Greece is cooking something good here, and it ain’t their precious food this time!
eurocomments247 on
And for example USA, whose gross debt is 120 % and rising.
krazydude22 on
How sustainable is this ‘trend’? Reading the comments, I’m guessing not so much..
ElectronicBit8952 on
… in 50 years, yes.
LovesLatinaBabes on
Greeks might bailout Italy/France in future… Voila.. Here we go.. /s
micosoft on
Almost like behaving like a grown up economy and getting rid of grifters like Yanis could dig you out of the hole. Apparently austerity works…
mekolayn on
Maybe France should let the Germans to restructure their economy too since it clearly worked for Greece
Effective_Bath3217 on
I have an idea to tackle public debt in Europe—a feasible solution, provided there’s political will. I’m not seeking personal promotion, just hoping to spark a conversation and explore this idea together.
The proposal suggests disconnecting the European Central Bank from private banking and allowing direct financing of states without generating debt. This could enable interest-free funding for public services, eliminate the shadow economy, and ensure full transparency. You can read more in this petition: For a debt-free Europe.
I’d love to hear your thoughts—what could be improved, what challenges you see, and whether you think this could gain traction from a citizen-led perspective. Could something like this actually work?
thebrainitaches on
And all they had to do was wreck their economy to get there!
leaflock7 on
I see from 2-3 accounts all those “positive” stats without any context though.
But i never show those accounts posting about cost of living, inflation and median wages.
that alone says a lot about the people doing those posts.
ThroawayJimilyJones on
Remember all the people screaming that austerity didn’t work, and that the only way was to push consumption through social spending 🙂 ?
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Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/greece/government-debt-to-gdp#
🇬🇷in 2020-> 209,4% in 2024-> 153,6%
🇮🇹in 2020-> 154,9% in 2024-> 135,3%
🇫🇷in 2020-> 114,9% in 2024-> 113%
Greeks are wonderful people and they deserve to thrive
Bold of you to assume the greek government won’t mess up once they feel confident about their debt being low enough.
Start as old as time. Government fucks up. Citizens suffer. The problem gets fixed through the years. The government decides to do the same for some reason. Repeat.
If this trend keeps up I’m going to live forever.
Is this to do with gdp growth or debt being paid off though?
Love Greece, they have a lot of competent people
just imagine where they would be now if they sold Parthenon
If
Greece started taxing the fuck otta short term rentals (15, 35, and 45%), which I assume is one of the reasons their debt is goen down.
It’s terrible for foreign investors and Greeks that live off tourism tho.
Which means very little in the scheme of things. Overall, if the economy is strong the debt to gdp means little to nothing.
Which is why I welcome the new ECB tools for Eurozone. If an economy is even slightly healthy (economic growth of 1%+ over a year or more), taking on debt will boost the economy. Which is why Finland will use this tool to leverage our economy to a better growth path – from 1.6% annual to 3-5%.
One doesn’t have to go as far as Japan or the US that have basically lived on borrowed money for decades to know that this indicator is somewhat faulty.
I’m waiting for the new ECB tools to kick in and let the Eurozone countries leverage that for growth.
ETA
Before anyone gets to say that this new debt from the ECB is somehow in vain or used to prop up existing money draining structures – here how Finland uses it (it’s all public information):
-low-cost funding, enabling lending to businesses
-cash injections in combination with venture funding for new start-ups
-lowers interest rates in Finland to enable further start-ups/innovation/companies
-Maintains market confidence and further outside investments for new (and existing) industries
(Finnish pension system and healthcare system partially are managed separately outside yearly government spending – namely: Large international pooled **investment portfolios. Which is why Finnish pensions or healthcare** are always well funded without any excessive support from the goverment.)
Kinda a must, if they want to pay back their enormous debt.
It’s honestly incredible how much debt they’ve managed to shave off
Damn! Greece is cooking something good here, and it ain’t their precious food this time!
And for example USA, whose gross debt is 120 % and rising.
How sustainable is this ‘trend’? Reading the comments, I’m guessing not so much..
… in 50 years, yes.
Greeks might bailout Italy/France in future… Voila.. Here we go.. /s
Almost like behaving like a grown up economy and getting rid of grifters like Yanis could dig you out of the hole. Apparently austerity works…
Maybe France should let the Germans to restructure their economy too since it clearly worked for Greece
I have an idea to tackle public debt in Europe—a feasible solution, provided there’s political will. I’m not seeking personal promotion, just hoping to spark a conversation and explore this idea together.
The proposal suggests disconnecting the European Central Bank from private banking and allowing direct financing of states without generating debt. This could enable interest-free funding for public services, eliminate the shadow economy, and ensure full transparency. You can read more in this petition: For a debt-free Europe.
I’d love to hear your thoughts—what could be improved, what challenges you see, and whether you think this could gain traction from a citizen-led perspective. Could something like this actually work?
And all they had to do was wreck their economy to get there!
I see from 2-3 accounts all those “positive” stats without any context though.
But i never show those accounts posting about cost of living, inflation and median wages.
that alone says a lot about the people doing those posts.
Remember all the people screaming that austerity didn’t work, and that the only way was to push consumption through social spending 🙂 ?