Finland should implement secularity policy, similar to France. They won’t however because they need to defend Christianity which is inane.
Turbulent_Worth_2509 on
Common sense is beginning to prevail.
Xylit-No-Spazzolino on
And she’s right.
Froggyshop on
Based
Whole-Cat-6879 on
I also cant wear a full face helmet into school. Why should you be able to wear a burka or niqab?
You can easily cheat your ways to exams and it also has a lot of safety risks, you dont know who/what is under a niqab
restinpolaris on
i hope this ban expands to all religious clothing / attributes.
Due-Resort-2699 on
They’re not suitable for anywhere outside the Middle East and North Africa
Big-Following2210 on
yes
Trisyphos on
They aren’t suitable for anywhere.
Adriatic_Coastline on
Europe is slowly healing…..
cryptoislife_k on
We’re so back.
Swimming-Addendum240 on
Perhaps I will be stoned to death by having this opinion – but as a Finn I agree that face should not be covered in a school setting. Or in our society as a whole at all. Covering the face goes against everything Finnish culture is.
Commune-Designer on
So how many people does this affect?
Kaiser93 on
Correct.
BusyBeeBridgette on
They are not suitable for an equal and fair society.
Feeling-Attention43 on
They’re not suitable for Europe.
Superb-Offer-2281 on
To be honest it’s their country and if you want things a certain way you must move to a country with those customs rather than moving and attempting to change their customs. Our Europeans countries are beautiful and should remain what they are regardless of who comes
OliveCompetitive3002 on
👍
RijnKantje on
Burqa’s and Niqab are not suitable for Western civilisation.
Religion is fine, using religion to powertrip on women and only women is not.
boinwtm0ds on
Good. You want sharia law, go to a country that has them and enjoy. Don’t contaminate secular democracies with it
Kebab_Meister on
Good stuff keep it up.
mikendrix on
No shit ?
The-Great-Xaga on
They generally do not belong in Europe. But school is a good place to start
Dodem95 on
It’s not problem if they want to practice Islam at home !!! But stop showing it off, trying to influence European societies!! We don’t want it!!! If you feel discriminated because you can’t wear your “religious hat” at school, you can always go back to Middle East! Thank you for attention
WasedaWalker on
Don’t like it, leave the country and go somewhere that fits your needs.
Nasko1194 on
Common Finnish W
KikiRiki2255 on
When i went to school we were not allowed to have those t shirts without sleeves for boys, we were not allowed to have shorts above knees, to wear hats during class, girls were not allowed to have too short dresses, leggings, shorts, or naked shoulders. It was not part of religion but part of culture and what was considered appropriate.
Same thing here. This is Finnish culture. Respect it or leave.
LoyalteeMeOblige on
They are not suitable anywhere in the West, plain simple.
Dazzling_Lobster3656 on
And crosses and all religious symbols
NothingbutNetiPot on
I knew a lot of Muslim women who grew up wearing the hijab. As soon as they gained financial independence, they never put that thing on again.
It’s not voluntary, we all know it. These women and girls would be attacked by their communities if they tried to integrate.
Fine-Independence976 on
I’m a leftist. I’m really agajnst burkas and niqabs in europe. It’s beautifull that we have so many culture, I actually think that, but for these culture to co-exist, we also have to defend these culture from each other. I don’t think that any country in europe should legitimaze anything beside Hijab.
SupremoPete on
Not suitable to life in general
Ijustlikethings on
I’ve seen my share of this conversation and, oh boy, do people miss the mark so often.
One has to remember that Finland has an established state churches (Evangelical lutheran and orthodox) and that combines christianity into school and state issues. Trying to escape religion in school is hard, even for native non-religious students.
Now add up different religion and habits to the mix with some people worrying for equality among men/women, the autonomy of the female, school policies on face recognition and the basic fear of the culture and it’s differences.
Everybody making their point on different grounds. You’d need to be VERY clear about “why” and what your argument would mean for everyone when making a nation-wide policy.
Temo2212 on
Schools should be secular institutions. We are no longer in the medieval era where religion was responsible of educating people. Therefore, I support the ban of all visible religious symbols from schools, regardless of their nature.
Daedross on
I agree with no face covering in class (for practical and social reasons) but people in this thread defending state religion (because it happens to be Christianity in this case) are equally as wrong. Religion should simply not be used as the basis to dictate what people can and cannot wear.
TheyCallHimBabaYagaa on
When in Rome, do as the Romans do
BlueSparkNightSky on
Germany! Are you listening!?
be_sugary on
Absolutely agree. Faces shouldn’t be covered. Hair covering isn’t so intrusive but I feel all religious icons etc should be left in the home.
SadSad_World on
Religion does not belong in schools.
wolfhound_doge on
this should be made into an universal EU law across all member states and we should include other religious shit (incl. christianity) spilling over into public institutions.
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Finland should implement secularity policy, similar to France. They won’t however because they need to defend Christianity which is inane.
Common sense is beginning to prevail.
And she’s right.
Based
I also cant wear a full face helmet into school. Why should you be able to wear a burka or niqab?
You can easily cheat your ways to exams and it also has a lot of safety risks, you dont know who/what is under a niqab
i hope this ban expands to all religious clothing / attributes.
They’re not suitable for anywhere outside the Middle East and North Africa
yes
They aren’t suitable for anywhere.
Europe is slowly healing…..
We’re so back.
Perhaps I will be stoned to death by having this opinion – but as a Finn I agree that face should not be covered in a school setting. Or in our society as a whole at all. Covering the face goes against everything Finnish culture is.
So how many people does this affect?
Correct.
They are not suitable for an equal and fair society.
They’re not suitable for Europe.
To be honest it’s their country and if you want things a certain way you must move to a country with those customs rather than moving and attempting to change their customs. Our Europeans countries are beautiful and should remain what they are regardless of who comes
👍
Burqa’s and Niqab are not suitable for Western civilisation.
Religion is fine, using religion to powertrip on women and only women is not.
Good. You want sharia law, go to a country that has them and enjoy. Don’t contaminate secular democracies with it
Good stuff keep it up.
No shit ?
They generally do not belong in Europe. But school is a good place to start
It’s not problem if they want to practice Islam at home !!! But stop showing it off, trying to influence European societies!! We don’t want it!!! If you feel discriminated because you can’t wear your “religious hat” at school, you can always go back to Middle East! Thank you for attention
Don’t like it, leave the country and go somewhere that fits your needs.
Common Finnish W
When i went to school we were not allowed to have those t shirts without sleeves for boys, we were not allowed to have shorts above knees, to wear hats during class, girls were not allowed to have too short dresses, leggings, shorts, or naked shoulders. It was not part of religion but part of culture and what was considered appropriate.
Same thing here. This is Finnish culture. Respect it or leave.
They are not suitable anywhere in the West, plain simple.
And crosses and all religious symbols
I knew a lot of Muslim women who grew up wearing the hijab. As soon as they gained financial independence, they never put that thing on again.
It’s not voluntary, we all know it. These women and girls would be attacked by their communities if they tried to integrate.
I’m a leftist. I’m really agajnst burkas and niqabs in europe. It’s beautifull that we have so many culture, I actually think that, but for these culture to co-exist, we also have to defend these culture from each other. I don’t think that any country in europe should legitimaze anything beside Hijab.
Not suitable to life in general
I’ve seen my share of this conversation and, oh boy, do people miss the mark so often.
One has to remember that Finland has an established state churches (Evangelical lutheran and orthodox) and that combines christianity into school and state issues. Trying to escape religion in school is hard, even for native non-religious students.
Now add up different religion and habits to the mix with some people worrying for equality among men/women, the autonomy of the female, school policies on face recognition and the basic fear of the culture and it’s differences.
Everybody making their point on different grounds. You’d need to be VERY clear about “why” and what your argument would mean for everyone when making a nation-wide policy.
Schools should be secular institutions. We are no longer in the medieval era where religion was responsible of educating people. Therefore, I support the ban of all visible religious symbols from schools, regardless of their nature.
I agree with no face covering in class (for practical and social reasons) but people in this thread defending state religion (because it happens to be Christianity in this case) are equally as wrong. Religion should simply not be used as the basis to dictate what people can and cannot wear.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do
Germany! Are you listening!?
Absolutely agree. Faces shouldn’t be covered. Hair covering isn’t so intrusive but I feel all religious icons etc should be left in the home.
Religion does not belong in schools.
this should be made into an universal EU law across all member states and we should include other religious shit (incl. christianity) spilling over into public institutions.
This shit is banned even in most Muslim countries