He’s right, and the response has just been embarrassing.
We’re now onto the “we have evidence that they’re terrorists but we’re not allowed to show you” part of this farce.
If they had such compelling evidence then it should have been presented as justification for the proscription, instead they rushed the bill through as secondary legislation that couldn’t be amended, alongside other groups (actual terrorists that want to mass murder civilians) that many couldn’t vote against proscribing.
The sheer level of rank dishonesty and dirty bad faith practices around this completely undermines any argument they try to make.
Ministers should be resigning over how incompetently this has been handled, but we’ve got ourselves yet another Tory government incapable of shame, and whose response to every problem is authoritarianism.
IllustriousGerbil on
There a group heavy funded by people with deep connections to russia who stockpile weapons and attack UK military bases.
If a bunch of useful idiots want to get arrested to support them, they have no one but them self’s to blame.
GianfrancoZoey on
There’s a lot of users who always pop up in these threads making ridiculous assertions intended to mislead people.
This, chagos, tax changes, water company bailouts, immigration, housing, is there any area of policy they’re not “in a hole and still digging” in?
FuzzBuket on
It’s also monumentally stupid.
I hate viewing the deaths of tens of thousands of children through the lens of electoral politics, labour should have either stood up for international law or distances themselves last year as the only choices that could be made as some sort of moral point.
But God if you think the sun had an easy time with jez and want to avoid that, id probably avoid “Yvette cooper took 200k from the Israelis and now throws British grannies in jail for it”. Like it’s such a massive opening.
I can understand doing something like that if your well and truly committed to a cause, but let’s be honest labour isn’t. Either mossad has pictures of starmer using Google sheets rather than excel (the horror) or it’s truly just the plp cutting off their nose to spite their face.
Loreki on
I wonder if the government will ultimately concede some minor technical point in the case and drop the order because “they got the admin wrong and of course these things must be held to high standards because they create criminal offences”, so as not to have to change the outward policy.
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He’s right, and the response has just been embarrassing.
We’re now onto the “we have evidence that they’re terrorists but we’re not allowed to show you” part of this farce.
If they had such compelling evidence then it should have been presented as justification for the proscription, instead they rushed the bill through as secondary legislation that couldn’t be amended, alongside other groups (actual terrorists that want to mass murder civilians) that many couldn’t vote against proscribing.
The sheer level of rank dishonesty and dirty bad faith practices around this completely undermines any argument they try to make.
Ministers should be resigning over how incompetently this has been handled, but we’ve got ourselves yet another Tory government incapable of shame, and whose response to every problem is authoritarianism.
There a group heavy funded by people with deep connections to russia who stockpile weapons and attack UK military bases.
If a bunch of useful idiots want to get arrested to support them, they have no one but them self’s to blame.
There’s a lot of users who always pop up in these threads making ridiculous assertions intended to mislead people.
[Here’s a link incase anyone wants to actually read the JTAC report (a levied version of it obviously) that Yvette Cooper keeps lying about the contents of](https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2025/08/yvette-cooper-is-lying/)
This, chagos, tax changes, water company bailouts, immigration, housing, is there any area of policy they’re not “in a hole and still digging” in?
It’s also monumentally stupid.
I hate viewing the deaths of tens of thousands of children through the lens of electoral politics, labour should have either stood up for international law or distances themselves last year as the only choices that could be made as some sort of moral point.
But God if you think the sun had an easy time with jez and want to avoid that, id probably avoid “Yvette cooper took 200k from the Israelis and now throws British grannies in jail for it”. Like it’s such a massive opening.
I can understand doing something like that if your well and truly committed to a cause, but let’s be honest labour isn’t. Either mossad has pictures of starmer using Google sheets rather than excel (the horror) or it’s truly just the plp cutting off their nose to spite their face.
I wonder if the government will ultimately concede some minor technical point in the case and drop the order because “they got the admin wrong and of course these things must be held to high standards because they create criminal offences”, so as not to have to change the outward policy.