Proiezioni della popolazione in Europa fino al 2100 secondo le Nazioni Unite [OC]
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Proiezioni della popolazione in Europa fino al 2100 secondo le Nazioni Unite [OC]
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di madewulf
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The data source is: United Nations, Department of Economic and Social Affairs, Population Division. World Population Prospects: The 2024 Revision. (Medium variant)
You can find a live version here: [https://www.populationpyramid.net/population-projections/belgium+france+germany+italy+netherlands+poland+romania+spain+ukraine+united-kingdom/](https://www.populationpyramid.net/population-projections/belgium+france+germany+italy+netherlands+poland+romania+spain+ukraine+united-kingdom/)
If I am reading this correctly then Italy, Spain and Poland are fucked.
It would be great if world population got back to 1-2 billion like it has been for most of history.
Yesterday in Spain, temperature records were broken by 2 degrees, when the climate targets were 1.5 degrees within 25 years. This is devastating tourism, which will move further north. Furthermore, the average salary is currently equal to the rent, making it impossible for young people to have children. Climate change and living conditions are going to devastate southern Europe.
Up to this point, UN projections (about fertility) have always been too optimistic. It may be even worse than this.
Can someone explain what happens in ukraine before 2022 ?
How is France so stable? Because of african immigration?
Why are France and the UK projected to rise?
But that’s a good thing? We use more resources than the planet can sustainably provide. Property prices are through the roof, every major city seems overcrowded…
Ukraine is completely f’ed in the a.
Notice that for readability, this only includes the 10 largest countries of Europe (in 2024)
I always find it interesting that some of the most pro Eu countries are the ones that have the least to benefit on the long term. Youd think thered be protest in a lot of these countries. Like is it not strange? the countries with the least Eu support are the ones who benefit the most form it. rather than brexit one wouldve expected romania or poland to leave in order to prevent demographic collapse. you can be anti immigrant and below replcment levels. but you cant be anti imigrant below replacement levels all the while having a high rate of your own citizens being immigrants .
Concerning.
It was exactly graphs like these that caused the current housing crisis in Germany. 20 years ago they estimated a shrinking population, so they decreased the number of new housing projects. Guess what, Germany grew by 4 million people, and now housing is unaffordable and hard to find.
I find it frustrating how people view this as a problem rather than one of the few pieces of good news we have. Overpopulation is at the root of our biggest problems. If facing some tough times now leads us toward a more sustainable future, then it’s a price worth paying. But instead politics will force more baby creation via making abortions illegal, giving tax incentives for child production etc. It’s like we’re doing everything in our power to utterly wreck this planet.
It’s ok, maybe all the immigrants will only convert us to space Islam like in Dune.
50 year long population predictions are pretty worthless. Population growth is exponential and the certainty of growth rate prediction is strongly decreasing with every decade of projection length. There can be massive and sudden changes in the growth rate due to currently completely unforeseeable events.
It is really like looking at the bottom of your tea cup. Doesn’t matter if the UN is doing it or anyone else. Would you give the weather prediction for the 1.10.2100 and the precipitation amount on that day much consideration?
So basically, with the possible exception of Ukraine, any drop in population over the rest of the century won’t even offset the growth over the last century. People make such a fuss over nothing.
I dont buy the projections for one second. With the falling birthrates we should probably be dropping more than that but we shouldn’t see THIS many flat lines at the end.
The UK population is not going to dip … Far, far from that.
United Nations hobby is to extrapolate.
Long-term economic projections have the only value of making astrology seem trustworthy
Italy having had briefly more people than France and the UK surprises me
LETS GO ITALY LETS MAKE IT CRASH FASTER 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
With Russian catastrofic defeat Europe will get its new wave. Cheap resources, large undevelopped market. Europe should follow real-politic trends, so loved by Putin amd Trump. End of Russian – will mean prosperity for Europe.
My concern is that Europe will be flooded with Indians everywhere since they are the only ones growing massively.