Research was conducted by a foreign funded NGO in Russia
GremlinX_ll on
But i was told there is riots fuming inside Russia… /s
11160704 on
See how the Russians loved the 2022 aggression against Ukraine.
The popular western narrative that the Russians are good people that just suffer under an evil government is just utterly false.
Adept_Definition1900 on
A murderer and a maniac is always satisfied with his successful actions… What’s so strange about that?
halee1 on
Standards are successfully being lowered. One of the arguments I’ve seriously heard from those defending the standard of living and trends in Russia is that “there are still products on grocery shelves”. Yeah, imagine using that as a “strength” circa 2013. Now look at how many regions outside Moscow are in economic contraction as as whole or in many sectors (you’d need to read business or regional Russian media for that), how airports are constantly being shutdown, how a thousand Russians are dying from a war every day, how drones destroying stuff in Russia is part of the country’s daily life. Imagine saying that is “normal” a decade earlier.
Soviet statistics also claimed successful harvests or increased industrial production one after another, even as the standard of living first almost stagnated, then stagnated, then products started barely appearing on the shelves, then economic growth went negative, and then products disappeared almost entirely. We’ve seen this happen before.
_vox_nihili on
So over 50% of Russians are happy with the invasion of Ukraine. They got the government they deserve.
Swimming_Pair_1750 on
Russians just love Putin. I don’t get why western media often spread that false narrative that this war it’s only Putin’s fault.
IStoneI42 on
of course. the dissatisfied were sent to the front or to prison and a million more fled the country.
vintage_cycles on
I remember how my grandfather was commenting on people’s attitude towards soviet occupation of Moldova: 1st tens of thousands of those that did not want to live under soviets left the region, 2nd tens of thousands of locals were deported to Siberia and Kazakhstan, 3rd tens of thousands of locals were killed as part of the organized famine, 4th tens of thousands of Soviet migrants arrived to live in the houses of the recently killed/deported and thus became local residents, 5th any anti-soviet citizens and movements were violently suppressed. And as a result you obtain a majority supporting the Soviet power.
Basic-Still-7441 on
Of course! Some may ask “why?” or “how?”. The answer is “because there is war and war gives meaning to their pathetic lives”. This nation does not know how to exist in peace with themselves, their neighbours and the rest of the world. It’s a broken psyche, broken beyond repair.
dumnezero on
“at least I’m not on the war front!”
DifferenceChance2274 on
Lies! Complete lies!
Rich-Many1369 on
Press freedom index 2024 – Russia ranking 171
Corruption index 2024 – Russia ranking 154
GDP (nominal) per capita 2023 – Russia ranking 68
Happiness index 2024 – Russia ranking 66
Clearly, this is paradise on earth
Used-Barracuda-2528 on
People cannot distinguish happiness of life and having an opinion about the aggression!
Functional Illiterates
N0_Horny on
Again they asked 1000 people from the crowd and that’s it
Especially considering the Russophobic state organization RKN (RosKomNadzor/~ russian monitoring committee), which blocks everything without reason and which everyone pours filth on, and those who support their blocking are labeled as bots
Yeah, yeah…57%
mariuszmie on
P r o p a g a n d a. It works
No-Tomatillo3698 on
Hard to believe Russians enjoy life more now than in say, the early 2000s when Russia was doing well economically, the regime wasn’t as repressive as it is now and the country wasn’t a pariah state.
Just how reliable is this research? Seems to me Russians have been conditioned for a looong time to not speak their minds.
Tricertops4 on
See? Sanctions improve Russian life satisfaction.
Let’s double down!
djquu on
When you only ask if people are happy or if they want to go to jail, you get great polling numbers.
kiil1 on
Russia has managed to succeed in irredentist land-grab (even if not to the extent they dreamed of) and is on the verge of being welcomed back to the international community, with all its war crimes to be forgotten. Furthermore, relatively-speaking, Russians have also fared better socio-economically than us.
Europe finds itself humiliated and dependent on foreign powers at several fronts. While moves are being taken to tackle it, the national budgets are financially strained (see the deficits) *and* many countries are already facing far-right surges over the biggest plunge in living standards since WWII (i.e. there is not much room to cut spending or raise taxes at the expense of common people).
Yes, it’s yet another disturbing proof of just how extremely wrong the priorities in European politics have been these past decades. Demilitarization has left the continent exposed and vulnerable. Dependency on foreign powers keeps humiliating the once-great continent at several fronts – Trump’s USA, Russia and China. And the young generation is paying a very heavy price for all that. Maybe climate change, in fact, was not supposed to be a priority before facing those existential issues first.
CKGD19 on
What people do not understand is that for the average, middle class Russian living in urban centers, the war was an overall positive development. Wages have gone up significantly, more internal technological development lead by the war industry and all the assets of the previously western companies have now passed into the hands of russian domestic owners.
The way Putin has shaped the russian economy and the way he conducts the war is very very smart. By switching into an all volunteer/contractor military force, the average russian has no fear of being forced into the military and the front lines to die. As a result the vast majority of russians do not care about the war. They can just ignore it as background noise since it does not affect them directly.
Who pays the price? The impoverished ethnic minorities of Russia. Who do not know any better because they have no access to information in their remote areas, and will happily sign a dead contract for some extra money. The russian state does not care about them either and are seen as expendable assets.
As long as the average middle class ethnic russian is not impacted by the war, the conflict will continue indefinitely. Putin has no reason to stop, his plan is working and his popularity is only increasing domestically.
InsensitiveClod76 on
Citizen, are you happy?
kr4ft3r on
Do people actually believe in these numbers? Ridiculous.
gfnord on
Every widow with a paycheck from a drunkard husband killed in Ukraine is happy for sure.
Thadlust on
It always baffles me when npc redditors blindly side with the working class over the educated “elite”. The elite are the ones opposing this war, the masses love this nationalist slop. Anyone who stands for the “working class” wouldn’t last fifteen minutes with the average working class person from most countries.
dendarkjabberwock on
People expected much worse things from sanctions and war. Instead things are at least not terrible, plenty of low-paying jobs had salary increase just because quantity of workers became lower and plenty of money started circulated in poor regions too. And most things are still available to buy too. Still ruble exchange rate remained pretty okay – and people expected that rate will be terrible.
Do not mix it with war support – or war acceptance. Generally polls like that are not very accurate especially in the times of war and in authocratic countries. I would say most people are trying to avoid any talks about war since it isn’t safe if you are against it, and can be very divisive topic if you support it. Support of war is different for different age groups, education level, region, occupation or income level.
WorldnewsMildews on
I guess it helps when a few 100 thousand of poor and unhappy people die
BoobaLover69 on
I’m mostly amazed that they managed to find even that many satisfied Russians during the nineties
KirikoKiama on
Which of the two is it?
1. We are to scared to say how bad we feel
2. We are making everyones else life miserable and that makes us feel good
EnbyArthropod on
If you say you are dissatisfied you fall from a window.
Shameful_Bezkauna on
Unrelated, but you can literally notice when the economy got unfucked (1999+) on this graph.
Before that Russian GDP per capita declined 31,51% from 1989 to 1994 (33,58% if you count to 1996 or 32,97% if you count to 1998). The economy started to recover in 1997, but it was interrupted by the default in 1998. Thereafter growth picked up and GDP per capita in 2003 was 5,92% higher than in 1989.
By comparison, US GDP per capita declined by 32,67% from 1929 to 1933, but was only 5,51% lower in 1937 than in 1929. Despite the 1937-1938 recession, GDP per capita was 0,43% higher in 1940 than in 1929.
I wouldn‘t either dare to say that I‘m not satisfied at gun point.
nasosroukounas on
unlike other wars, Russia today doesn’t face famine,to the contrary, unemployment is practically zero and many people make good money from the so called Special Military Operation, they believe that they are winning, building back the Empire.This is probably the most fun war Russians have ever fought
mouxlas21 on
Too bad it starts in 1993. I would have loved to see the Russian numbers from 1982
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Research was conducted by a foreign funded NGO in Russia
But i was told there is riots fuming inside Russia… /s
See how the Russians loved the 2022 aggression against Ukraine.
The popular western narrative that the Russians are good people that just suffer under an evil government is just utterly false.
A murderer and a maniac is always satisfied with his successful actions… What’s so strange about that?
Standards are successfully being lowered. One of the arguments I’ve seriously heard from those defending the standard of living and trends in Russia is that “there are still products on grocery shelves”. Yeah, imagine using that as a “strength” circa 2013. Now look at how many regions outside Moscow are in economic contraction as as whole or in many sectors (you’d need to read business or regional Russian media for that), how airports are constantly being shutdown, how a thousand Russians are dying from a war every day, how drones destroying stuff in Russia is part of the country’s daily life. Imagine saying that is “normal” a decade earlier.
Soviet statistics also claimed successful harvests or increased industrial production one after another, even as the standard of living first almost stagnated, then stagnated, then products started barely appearing on the shelves, then economic growth went negative, and then products disappeared almost entirely. We’ve seen this happen before.
So over 50% of Russians are happy with the invasion of Ukraine. They got the government they deserve.
Russians just love Putin. I don’t get why western media often spread that false narrative that this war it’s only Putin’s fault.
of course. the dissatisfied were sent to the front or to prison and a million more fled the country.
I remember how my grandfather was commenting on people’s attitude towards soviet occupation of Moldova: 1st tens of thousands of those that did not want to live under soviets left the region, 2nd tens of thousands of locals were deported to Siberia and Kazakhstan, 3rd tens of thousands of locals were killed as part of the organized famine, 4th tens of thousands of Soviet migrants arrived to live in the houses of the recently killed/deported and thus became local residents, 5th any anti-soviet citizens and movements were violently suppressed. And as a result you obtain a majority supporting the Soviet power.
Of course! Some may ask “why?” or “how?”. The answer is “because there is war and war gives meaning to their pathetic lives”. This nation does not know how to exist in peace with themselves, their neighbours and the rest of the world. It’s a broken psyche, broken beyond repair.
“at least I’m not on the war front!”
Lies! Complete lies!
Press freedom index 2024 – Russia ranking 171
Corruption index 2024 – Russia ranking 154
GDP (nominal) per capita 2023 – Russia ranking 68
Happiness index 2024 – Russia ranking 66
Clearly, this is paradise on earth
People cannot distinguish happiness of life and having an opinion about the aggression!
Functional Illiterates
Again they asked 1000 people from the crowd and that’s it
Especially considering the Russophobic state organization RKN (RosKomNadzor/~ russian monitoring committee), which blocks everything without reason and which everyone pours filth on, and those who support their blocking are labeled as bots
Yeah, yeah…57%
P r o p a g a n d a. It works
Hard to believe Russians enjoy life more now than in say, the early 2000s when Russia was doing well economically, the regime wasn’t as repressive as it is now and the country wasn’t a pariah state.
Just how reliable is this research? Seems to me Russians have been conditioned for a looong time to not speak their minds.
See? Sanctions improve Russian life satisfaction.
Let’s double down!
When you only ask if people are happy or if they want to go to jail, you get great polling numbers.
Russia has managed to succeed in irredentist land-grab (even if not to the extent they dreamed of) and is on the verge of being welcomed back to the international community, with all its war crimes to be forgotten. Furthermore, relatively-speaking, Russians have also fared better socio-economically than us.
Europe finds itself humiliated and dependent on foreign powers at several fronts. While moves are being taken to tackle it, the national budgets are financially strained (see the deficits) *and* many countries are already facing far-right surges over the biggest plunge in living standards since WWII (i.e. there is not much room to cut spending or raise taxes at the expense of common people).
Yes, it’s yet another disturbing proof of just how extremely wrong the priorities in European politics have been these past decades. Demilitarization has left the continent exposed and vulnerable. Dependency on foreign powers keeps humiliating the once-great continent at several fronts – Trump’s USA, Russia and China. And the young generation is paying a very heavy price for all that. Maybe climate change, in fact, was not supposed to be a priority before facing those existential issues first.
What people do not understand is that for the average, middle class Russian living in urban centers, the war was an overall positive development. Wages have gone up significantly, more internal technological development lead by the war industry and all the assets of the previously western companies have now passed into the hands of russian domestic owners.
The way Putin has shaped the russian economy and the way he conducts the war is very very smart. By switching into an all volunteer/contractor military force, the average russian has no fear of being forced into the military and the front lines to die. As a result the vast majority of russians do not care about the war. They can just ignore it as background noise since it does not affect them directly.
Who pays the price? The impoverished ethnic minorities of Russia. Who do not know any better because they have no access to information in their remote areas, and will happily sign a dead contract for some extra money. The russian state does not care about them either and are seen as expendable assets.
As long as the average middle class ethnic russian is not impacted by the war, the conflict will continue indefinitely. Putin has no reason to stop, his plan is working and his popularity is only increasing domestically.
Citizen, are you happy?
Do people actually believe in these numbers? Ridiculous.
Every widow with a paycheck from a drunkard husband killed in Ukraine is happy for sure.
It always baffles me when npc redditors blindly side with the working class over the educated “elite”. The elite are the ones opposing this war, the masses love this nationalist slop. Anyone who stands for the “working class” wouldn’t last fifteen minutes with the average working class person from most countries.
People expected much worse things from sanctions and war. Instead things are at least not terrible, plenty of low-paying jobs had salary increase just because quantity of workers became lower and plenty of money started circulated in poor regions too. And most things are still available to buy too. Still ruble exchange rate remained pretty okay – and people expected that rate will be terrible.
Do not mix it with war support – or war acceptance. Generally polls like that are not very accurate especially in the times of war and in authocratic countries. I would say most people are trying to avoid any talks about war since it isn’t safe if you are against it, and can be very divisive topic if you support it. Support of war is different for different age groups, education level, region, occupation or income level.
I guess it helps when a few 100 thousand of poor and unhappy people die
I’m mostly amazed that they managed to find even that many satisfied Russians during the nineties
Which of the two is it?
1. We are to scared to say how bad we feel
2. We are making everyones else life miserable and that makes us feel good
If you say you are dissatisfied you fall from a window.
Unrelated, but you can literally notice when the economy got unfucked (1999+) on this graph.
Before that Russian GDP per capita declined 31,51% from 1989 to 1994 (33,58% if you count to 1996 or 32,97% if you count to 1998). The economy started to recover in 1997, but it was interrupted by the default in 1998. Thereafter growth picked up and GDP per capita in 2003 was 5,92% higher than in 1989.
By comparison, US GDP per capita declined by 32,67% from 1929 to 1933, but was only 5,51% lower in 1937 than in 1929. Despite the 1937-1938 recession, GDP per capita was 0,43% higher in 1940 than in 1929.
Source: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-per-capita-maddison-project-database?tab=line&stackMode=relative
I wouldn‘t either dare to say that I‘m not satisfied at gun point.
unlike other wars, Russia today doesn’t face famine,to the contrary, unemployment is practically zero and many people make good money from the so called Special Military Operation, they believe that they are winning, building back the Empire.This is probably the most fun war Russians have ever fought
Too bad it starts in 1993. I would have loved to see the Russian numbers from 1982
Europe lowest is Russian highest