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    1. Minimum-Geologist-58 on

      I think what isn’t acknowledged enough in the decline of pubs and clubs in the UK is how shite so many of them were? There was an absolute race to the bottom in terms of quality and drinks prices for quite a long time and when the economy changed and costs increased the model of sticky carpets and utterly trashed customers who won’t notice failed.

      That’s not to diminish the economic pressure a lot of them have been placed under and to deny that good ones have closed but by god, a thinning of the herd was well overdue. It’s not some unmitigated tragedy.

    2. Any-Memory2630 on

      Pub closures was a trend before these tax hikes.

      Equating the two here is obfuscating the issue

    3. BigIncome5028 on

      Its not tax hike. Its rent. Its always rent. Until government realises that landlordism is killing the economy by hoarding money that could be spent productively, nothing will get better

    4. Kind-Active-1071 on

      Im willing to bet the larger issue, like it is for everyone else in this country, people and small businesses alike is the outrageous cost of housing, specifically landlords renting out things for an outrageous rate.

      The rent is killing innovation and productivity in this country because landlords just expect an easy income with no risks whatsoever. Nobody can afford to live so they can’t afford to set up businesses and own their own homes, and when they do they get crippled by people just extracting other people’s money because they own some land who think they provide society some purpose.

      The cost of business rate rises will be minuscule compared to rent I imagine.

    5. pajamakitten on

      Tax hikes are such a small part of the problem. Pubs have been closing at a similar rate for years, with the pandemic accelerating an already worrying trend. Tax hikes on employees won’t have helped but you would have to have deliberately not paying attention to the issue to think that increased taxes are the sole cause for pub closures. The cost of living crisis alone is why pubs have been struggling, alongside exorbitant rents and beer ties from pubcos.

    6. 1991atco on

      A huge shame and massive social impact across society as a whole. We are being forced into a hermit like society with everything quite literally available at your thumb tips.

    7. Purple_Woodpecker on

      There are a lot of reasons for the decline of pubs and the price of alcohol inside a pub was only one of them.

      There’s the fact that you can get your booze from the supermarket and pay 600% less per pint than if you went to the pub. That was a death blow. Then the internet became amazing, so you could get any entertainment imaginable from the comfort of your own home whilst paying 600% less for your alcohol. Another major deathblow.

      There’s also the fact that my generation (born in 1988) and the ones after it just simply don’t drink anywhere near as much as previous generations. I had a bottle of Newcastle Brown Ale on my 18th birthday and that’s the first and last time I ever drank alcohol in my entire life. Why is that? I have no idea, but somehow alcohol just wasn’t a thing for me, and every single person I know that is my age or younger – all friends, all relatives, everyone – is the same. They just don’t drink at all, ever. I’d actually be interested to know why there was such an enormous shift in culture in such a short time.

      In my town, which used to be around 30,000 people but is now around 45,000, there were pubs everywhere, on every street practically, and in the center and on the highstreet there were loads. But even 20 years ago I’d look in through the windows when I walked past and there were never more than 5 or 6 people in there. I used to wonder back then how the hell they made enough money to stay open. Now only the ones in the center and on the highstreet are left and there’s still only ever 5 or 6 people in them when I walk past and I’m still wondering.

    8. SC_W33DKILL3R on

      Whatever it is, Landlords / Rent, Breweries and the dodgy deals they do, it is not tax forcing pubs to close.

      They are charging silly amounts per drink, it has become unaffordable for many people. Many places are just pricing themselves out of the market, such as McDonalds are doing. It seems greed meant they thought they could keep increasing prices and now they are at a point where then need to charge the higher price, milking the few customers they have, having put many customers off.

      Just like with McDonalds (and the rest) they raised prices enough that people either stayed home, went to an independent or used the money to do something different.

    9. wkavinsky on

      Less to do with the tax hikes, far more to do with price hikes from the owning brewery on the leaseholders.

      Most pubs are “free” houses that can pick and choose where to order from – they **have** to order from the owning brewery, regardless of the price.

    10. michaelisnotginger on

      Anecdotally the employer’s NI hike, and the threshold at which it accumulates, was a real hit on any business with a lot of part time staff that made marginal businesses unprofitable.

    11. GlenGlow on

      the industry is changing, publicans need to accept that. Younger people do not go to pubs. They need to change their business model

    12. Own_Chocolate_6810 on

      Just legalise weed the pub game is done. Landlords can sell weed and make a fortune that way.

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