La mia proposta di accordo di pace
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di De_Wouter
La mia proposta di accordo di pace
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di De_Wouter
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My proposition is that the yellow area will be a new sea instead of land, to make future invasion harder.
We don’t need their damned land, we just want them to FUCK OFF.
Just propose a buffer zones at the Ruzzian border instead. 1991 borders are enough. Ukrainians don’t want new lands as they aren’t conquerors.
I want the East and Crimea back and a goddamn razor-wire wall!
Just the old borders from early 2013 … no need for more russians on ukrainian soil
Don’t need land, but there probably needs to be something to make sure they *can’t attack*
WW2 ended with such conditions
That may be moot if Russia falls apart, lots of oppressed peoples would love to not be ruled from Moscow
Also 25km buffer zone inside Russia, so Putin has his bufferzone
As of today Russia occupies roughly 20% of Ukraine. I’d suggest that Russia give up roughly 20% of its territories, specifically the part west of the Ural Mountains, with the population in the area moved to the east of the Ural Mountains.
I would add that the Black Sea should be free of Russian warships but that won’t be possible since there is a large amount of them on the sea floor.
“New”
Seems Ukrainians just want their original land back, I’d say force Russia to return any land that is contested aside from the Ukrainian lands such as what’s going on in Georgia, the japanese Kuril islands, Kralowec, Chechnia if they still want to be independent and some that technically got ‘resolved’ like lithuanian and finnish land that got taken
I don’t think bringing an ever larger Russian minority in Ukraine is a good idea. It will only fuel another conflict in the future. Best thing would be a population swap, Russians can go back to Russia, DMZ like in Korea and good riddance.
Why doesn’t Trump just give Russia the Sudetenland while he’s at it?
https://i.redd.it/yvk21td11tjf1.gif
My advice to Zelenski for the meeting.
Hard Pass, it will take long enough to get the stink out of the occupied lands as it is. We dont need further bullshit to deal with. FUCK OFF and thats all.
Top map is exactly what was clear from day 1. Big land bridge to the black sea. Next step: free access to the Mediterranean. Sending Russian settlers in advance to have a dumb excuse for invading was obvious.
I support this, but only if Putin will be jailed forever on top!
I mean…maybe ruzzia should kick stones and Ukraine should consume ruzzia’s territory? All of it.
Oh no, no thanks. Just what’s ours (although pars of their land are ethnically Ukrainian initially)
Also, it probably comes with population, which is another no thanks for me
Old-new land, yeah
How about instead, Russia must:
– Empty Kaliningrad of all citizens and give the land over to Lithuania.
– Give Murmansk Oblast to Finland.
– Give all land south of Volgograd, the Volga River, and the Don river to a new independent Chechen state after submitting Kadyrov and his top lieutenants to the Hague for war crimes
– Cede Karelia to a new independent nation called the Republic of Karelia
– Submit Putin and his top generals and secretaries to the Hague for war crimes
– Give up all claims on the Kuril islands and cede them to Japan, and give Japan the island of Sakhalin for good measure.
– Cede all of the following to Mongolia:
– Urkutsk Oblast
– Republic of Buryatia
– Zabaykalsky Krai
– Republic of Tuva
– Altai Republic
– Cede everything else from Krasnoyarsk Krai to the east to a new nation called Siberia
Sounds fair to me.
Oh, and give back the land they stole from Ukraine, too.
It is technically historically Ukrainian land.
My own peace plan: Restore Ukraine with Crimea and give them some condolences lands, give Georgia back their lands, give Japan all nearby russian islands, give China that bit around Manchuria, and then break all the rest of russia up into smaller states. The russian government will be disarmed and tried in world court, and then inherited by the much smaller state of Novgorod centered around Moscow.
Yes, give land to Ukraine so Russia loses access to the Black Sea, forever. That should be the price to pay.
Hell no, all the zombies there will start flooding to the rest of the country. No way.
this comment section is like the epitome of echo chambers deluding people’s sense of reality