“hard-left” lol, inches off of Far-left aka communism, get real lol.
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HMWYA on
Not sure how the Telegraph have already decided this party that has presented no policies to be “hard-left”, despite the previous manifesto Corbyn ran as a party leader on being pretty centre-left.
kachowfornow on
Who in the f wants a hard left? Decision making is already weak as hell
BoopingBurrito on
Maybe this is what it’ll take for Labour to bring in proportional representation…fear of having their majority destroyed by corbyn running a socialist in every constituency and taking a chunk of the labour vote. With proportional representation they have a chance of being the largest party (depending on how the campaign goes), and might manage a coalition with the Lib Dems quite readily.
Chillmm8 on
That’s 20% ripped away from Labour, Lib Dem’s and Greens vote share. That means more seats for Reform and more power for Mr Farage.
If you believe the polls that have tried to account for Corbyn’s new party’s impact, we are currently sailing towards ed Davey’s leading PMQs with less than 100 MPs.
Manoj109 on
What is hard left ?
Which of Corbyn’s policies are hard left?
fgspq on
When you’re somewhere to the right of Hitler, any moderate, progressive position is going to look that way I suppose
D0wnInAlbion on
It will do well initially and then they’ll cross a lot of the electorates red lines by promoting an unpalatable policy on something like immigration or Trident.
Appropriate-Divide64 on
It’s so dumb how anything left leaning is given the “hard” prefix as if it’s equivalent to the hard right.
Pogeos on
The overall number in the article is >100%, so it’s hard what it means, but if you assume that far right (Reform) and far-left (Corbyn) voters don’t overlap, then 58% of the UK population are supporting really stupid, nearly extremist policies. That’s worrying.
Psycho_Splodge on
His domestic policies seemed fine, it was his defence, foreign policy, and immigration that made him so popular among traditional labour voters.
Parshath_ on
If the mainstream press and public are so scared of Corbyn’s politics and a scaremongering concept of an imaginary exaggerated “hard-left”, if it were to be created in 2025, there would never be a NHS, Libraries, or even public Wi-Fi would be considered communist woke non-sense.
ArghZombies on
Something that doesn’t seem to get discussed much is that we had Jeremy Corbyn in a pretty big position of power: leader of the opposition for 5 years. And at that specific job – leading the party – he was arguably pretty bad at. Not very good during PMQs. Soft on things like Brexit. Terrible at party discipline too.
He had a decent manifesto back in 2017 – one that I voted for too. But as someone to actually LEAD a party, I really think he had his time, and failed at it. He’s no Bernie Saunders / AOC, and I think it’s someone in that ilk that we really need to give a better voice to people on the Left. He’s tainted and just not very good in that respect.
Didymograptus2 on
Corbyn was never hard left, just a democratic socialist with many policies the same as governments across Europe.
ea_fitz on
I wish we lived in a state where one fifth of voters would back a hard left party. What they’re actually going to do is run on a social democrat platform with centre-left policies that are considered normal stuff in countries that are pleasant to live in.
Fellowes321 on
A fifth could. Well everyone could but the number that will is going to be tiny.
Hard left? No more than the Telegraph should be called far-right.
mikolv2 on
He’s 76 now, will be 80 by the next election, if he were to be elected, he’d serve his term from 80 to 85 years old. He’d be older than Joe Biden during his term. Ignoring his politics, do we want someone so old as a prime minister?
debaser11 on
This should really be considered a huge failure of Starmer and Labour.
Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were able to keep the left (including Corbyn) onside. I really don’t think it’s even particularly hard to do as a labour government.
Blairs approach to the left was you might not agree with everything I do, but I’ll always be better than the Tories and offer you XYZ and you’re welcome in the party. Starmers approach has been ‘you’re not welcome in the party, there’s the door’
judochop1 on
These cunts are gonna let Reform stroll into government, you can see it miles off, and they won’t even care
bad people
XenorVernix on
Nothing will push the other 80% towards Reform faster than the threat of Corbyn gaining power.
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Not sure how the Telegraph have already decided this party that has presented no policies to be “hard-left”, despite the previous manifesto Corbyn ran as a party leader on being pretty centre-left.
Who in the f wants a hard left? Decision making is already weak as hell
Maybe this is what it’ll take for Labour to bring in proportional representation…fear of having their majority destroyed by corbyn running a socialist in every constituency and taking a chunk of the labour vote. With proportional representation they have a chance of being the largest party (depending on how the campaign goes), and might manage a coalition with the Lib Dems quite readily.
That’s 20% ripped away from Labour, Lib Dem’s and Greens vote share. That means more seats for Reform and more power for Mr Farage.
If you believe the polls that have tried to account for Corbyn’s new party’s impact, we are currently sailing towards ed Davey’s leading PMQs with less than 100 MPs.
What is hard left ?
Which of Corbyn’s policies are hard left?
When you’re somewhere to the right of Hitler, any moderate, progressive position is going to look that way I suppose
It will do well initially and then they’ll cross a lot of the electorates red lines by promoting an unpalatable policy on something like immigration or Trident.
It’s so dumb how anything left leaning is given the “hard” prefix as if it’s equivalent to the hard right.
The overall number in the article is >100%, so it’s hard what it means, but if you assume that far right (Reform) and far-left (Corbyn) voters don’t overlap, then 58% of the UK population are supporting really stupid, nearly extremist policies. That’s worrying.
His domestic policies seemed fine, it was his defence, foreign policy, and immigration that made him so popular among traditional labour voters.
If the mainstream press and public are so scared of Corbyn’s politics and a scaremongering concept of an imaginary exaggerated “hard-left”, if it were to be created in 2025, there would never be a NHS, Libraries, or even public Wi-Fi would be considered communist woke non-sense.
Something that doesn’t seem to get discussed much is that we had Jeremy Corbyn in a pretty big position of power: leader of the opposition for 5 years. And at that specific job – leading the party – he was arguably pretty bad at. Not very good during PMQs. Soft on things like Brexit. Terrible at party discipline too.
He had a decent manifesto back in 2017 – one that I voted for too. But as someone to actually LEAD a party, I really think he had his time, and failed at it. He’s no Bernie Saunders / AOC, and I think it’s someone in that ilk that we really need to give a better voice to people on the Left. He’s tainted and just not very good in that respect.
Corbyn was never hard left, just a democratic socialist with many policies the same as governments across Europe.
I wish we lived in a state where one fifth of voters would back a hard left party. What they’re actually going to do is run on a social democrat platform with centre-left policies that are considered normal stuff in countries that are pleasant to live in.
A fifth could. Well everyone could but the number that will is going to be tiny.
Hard left? No more than the Telegraph should be called far-right.
He’s 76 now, will be 80 by the next election, if he were to be elected, he’d serve his term from 80 to 85 years old. He’d be older than Joe Biden during his term. Ignoring his politics, do we want someone so old as a prime minister?
This should really be considered a huge failure of Starmer and Labour.
Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were able to keep the left (including Corbyn) onside. I really don’t think it’s even particularly hard to do as a labour government.
Blairs approach to the left was you might not agree with everything I do, but I’ll always be better than the Tories and offer you XYZ and you’re welcome in the party. Starmers approach has been ‘you’re not welcome in the party, there’s the door’
These cunts are gonna let Reform stroll into government, you can see it miles off, and they won’t even care
bad people
Nothing will push the other 80% towards Reform faster than the threat of Corbyn gaining power.