UE e US pubblicano una dichiarazione congiunta sul commercio e negli investimenti transatlantici
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_1973
di Stannis_Loyalist
UE e US pubblicano una dichiarazione congiunta sul commercio e negli investimenti transatlantici
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_25_1973
di Stannis_Loyalist
30 commenti
Lets see…
“This Framework Agreement will put our trade and investment relationship – one of the largest in the world – on a solid footing and will reinvigorate our economies’ reindustrialisation. It reflects acknowledgement by the European Union of the concerns of the United States and our joint determination to resolve our trade imbalances and unleash the full potential of our combined economic power”
Already not a good start.
“The European Union intends to eliminate tariffs on all U.S. industrial goods and to provide preferential market access for a wide range of U.S. seafood and agricultural goods, including tree nuts, dairy products, fresh and processed fruits and vegetables, processed foods, planting seeds, soybean oil, and pork and bison meat.”
Getting worse.
“The United States commits to apply the higher of either the US Most Favored Nation (MFN) tariff rate or a tariff rate of 15%, comprised of the MFN tariff and a reciprocal tariff, on originating goods of the European Union.”
And worse.
“The United States expects the European Union’s legislative proposals will be consistent with this Framework Agreement and enacted by the necessary legislatures. All modifications to US Section 232 tariffs will be executed in a manner that reinforces and is consistent with US national security interests.”
So far not a single word about EU security interests. All about the US.
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Lol, so the deal is complete capitulation. Well done, EU!
For those in the know, is this deal for real? It seems so unequally sided towards the U.S. even though the EU is a bigger economy and the U.S. had no real leverage over the EU?
It doesn’t even make sense. The EU agrees to buy $750 billion of US energy over 3 years yet the U.S. has never exported $150 billion worth of energy WORLDWIDE in any year, let alone the EU
Is there some secret get out of jail clause in here I’m missing or have the EU just as weak as anything?
Ok.
When there was some ambiguity about the deal I thought it might have been better than we first thought. Now it just looks like the worst interpretation was correct.
Ok, this Is a disaster
well, so much for TACO. This is worse than the worst case scenario I expected. It’s not a deal, it’s a list of things that EU will give to US in exchange for not getting screwed even harder.
Accepting it suggests that EU is in much worse possition than one could possibly believe.
>”Recognising the importance of continued engagement to resolve longstanding concerns, the European Union and the United States commit to work together to address non-tariff barriers affecting trade in food and agricultural products, including streamlining requirements for sanitary certificates for pork and dairy products.”
>FUCKING BLEACH CHICKEN ARE COMING THE EU EVEN FOLDED AT FOOD AND SANITARY STANDARDS
I remember when this sub was getting on it’s high horse and saying that post Brexit, the US is going to make UK accept hormone beef and chorine washed chicken and that EU will stop accepting meat imports from the UK as a result of this. Is the EU in a position to lecture the UK on food standards now ?
Utter shame… european elites really are “ride or die” with the americans. Too much of their wealth is involved with them it would seem. I really hope we as the people can turn around this shitty leadership and get someone Who cares for the european future.
Fuck that shit.
Grow a fucking spine and implement reciprocal tariffs. We are not the US vassals.
So, the EU has decided to become a US state? All it days is how EU agrees to all demands from the US and is putting US interests first. What a shame.
Daladier was most courageous and foresight person ever live. In comparison of this unconditional surrender.
Here’s my take on some of the numbers from this Deal:
**EU agrees to invest at least $600 billion into the USA!!!!**
• This isn’t the EU doing it
• Quote: *”The announced investment target is fully based on private investment intentions from EU companies.”*
• So it’s basically just a random amount from random companies inside the EU that pledged to invest money into the US
• So maybe these companies already planned to invest this money (like a car factory let’s say), or they made some promises to the EU in the context of this “Deal”
• All in all, this might happen or not – the EU has no influence on these private promises from EU companies.
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**EU agrees to buy $750 billion of energy from the USA!!!!!**
**•** The EU isn’t the entitiy that buys energy from the US
• Energy (oil and gas) is traded between US and EU companies
• European countries would’ve bought US energy anyway – maybe not in this amount
• The EU can incentives local companies to buy more US energy, but they can’t force them to do so in the end
• Let’s say there isn’t enough demand for oil because EVs are selling more and more in the EU, we won’t suddenly buy more oil just because of this “Deal” if there is no need for it
• So this might happen or not
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**The EU also intends to purchase €40 billion worth of AI chips**
• Personal opinion: Well that money could also be spend to spur our local chips manufacturing infrastructure
• That said, Europe just doesn’t have access to high-tech chips otherwise, we would’ve bought them anyway
• So this is most probably going to happen, if it’s bad or good is up to you
WTH happened at that meeting??? Did Pootin threaten to nuke UKR or EU and Trump said he won’t do shit if EU doesn’t agree to this bad deal?
Hey VDL here’s for you and your Brussels friends 🖕🏽
This is absolutely PATHETIC. We are being economically harvested by the US and our leaders are doing nothing against it. Our dependency on the US is often cited as the reason for this deal being so one-sided and now we are literally deepening our dependency even more. WTF.
The EU is useless
I’m going on Amazon and ordering “The Art of the Deal”. From an American perspective, this is amazing.
This will never pass the french parliament. And i bet some others as well.
Utter betrayal with a smile. At least the lobbist are happy. Noone in charge seems to care about the EU longterm. Personally i miss the days, where leaders were afraid of pitchfolks when they sold out the interests of the people.
The absolute worst corpo traitors we have on the continent are currently running the commission…I just hope there will still be an EU after they finally f off… honestly the whole EPP should be banned as capitalist extremists in my view
Can y’all match the trillion dollar from the gulf
It seems Putin might be doing us a favor by trying to dismantle the EU.
In every single post about Trump we all laugh about how he is stupid and demented, but somehow he is totally smashing us (EU) in the deals and gets our politicans to just pay up and bow down on everything he demands, and they even thank him for it. Unbelivable.
We are total losers.
I cannot understand how not a single person in the EU tried to put up a fight at any point. Everyone is so submissive to Trump and willing to sell us out to keep denying a very important reality: the US are not our allies and we have to break ties as soon as possible. But let’s keep playing this game and see how far we can concede until our economy and security is compromised.
People are outraged! How could this have happened? This is madness how easily the EU capitulated!……
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While I’m also not happy with how this went, I am not at all surprised. The EU has to get buy in from all countries in the EU. Let’s not forget that the EU is not a country. It is not a federation.
What I’m seeing here is a power play by the US to dismantle the EU.
This deal will give fuel to anti EU parties who will say the EU is not fit for purpose and individual countries could have gotten a better deal.
Filthy, traitorous and disappointing
apparently the new transatlantic trade framework is that an orange moron has some surrogate ask chatgpt to cook up a bullshit set of demands based on nothing, and the EU gives them everything.
fuck trump, fuck everyone who caves to him, fuck AI companies and fuck von der Leyen.
See EU destroyed farming with impossible regulations so that we can buy their shit with, of course 0 regulation
Well EU bureaucrats have been riding on American coattails all these years at the expense of both regular Europeans and Americans . I don’t think this agreement goes far enough to redress the bitching blackmailing and shellacking we’ve been taking over the years from Brussels
And all this should be implemented in a few years (3 minimum).
That’s just a framework, with no legal binding.