I’m sure Winston Churchill would be proud of the party that he once led, having campaigned so tirelessly for greater co-operation and union with Europe.
John_Williams_1977 on
Good.
UK has the world’s most respected legal system and has been the most stable democracy in history.
We don’t need to be supervised by unelected bureaucrats.
blipbee on
This would be the point I leave the country and take my skills elsewhere.
Wiiboy95 on
It always amazes me how eager this country is to torch their own rights.
ClassicFlavour on
> However, former Conservative MP and shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve said in a recent interview, the Refugee Convention, rather than the ECHR, is what underpins the way asylum applications are processed.
This is important point but don’t worry, I’m sure leaving the ECHR won’t have any unexpected negative consequences for the public. Like say restricting union rights, cracking down on protests even more, further chipping away at our privacy. After all, the last decade has shown us just how much our governments love unions, protest, and privacy.
And of course, there’s no chance they’ll ever take a swing at reducing workers’ protections. Sure they’d have more power as we’d have lost the ability to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. But our politicians? Those trustworthy bunch? We’ll be fine.
First Labour MP made the call to leave the ECHR earlier today as well. People are going to sulk about it, but it’s becoming a mainstream opinion.
sjintje on
They had their chance. They need to explain why they didn’t do it last time.
TheL0wKing on
It always feels very good and not at all scary when a party wants to abandon an international Human Rights treaty because they kept trying to break it and getting caught. I am sure we can all trust that if in government they would have no ulterior motives and would not take advantage of this in any way. Especially when the articles they talk about wanting to scrap are minor ones like your protections from Government surveillance or unlawful seaches.
Its fine though, they will definitely replace it with an equally functional British version, just with a couple of very minor changes and exclusions for certain groups, nothing to worry about.
Loose_Teach7299 on
Take note. They’d trash their own parties legacy, and they would, and have happily, done the same to the country in the past.
armegatron99 on
What I don’t understand is that leaving the ECHR is desired because of the belief it’s stopping us controlling the border. Yet Poland are signed up to the ECHR and seem to have good control of their borders.
I feel it’s a push by the Tories and Reformers to dissolve rights of UK citizens even more (Labour are not immune from being anti-rights with their Online Safety Act too).
technurse on
I know this might be selfish, but I’m not willing to give up the protections the ECHR affords me for the sake of deporting a few thousand “illegal immigrants”
Specific-Fig-2351 on
UK managed before ECHR became law , UK will manage after. Time to leave ECHR, anybody who moans can blame themselves for blocking the control of immigration in the courts, in parliament and even on a passenger jet deporting a convicted jamican rapist/murderer to his home country. You know who you are , you are to blame.
OldLondon on
How do they plan on doing that when it’s written into the Good Friday agreement and therefore part of NI law
NathanDavie on
Just another acronym to scare the ignorant. WEF, DEI and all that.
One day people might figure out that the IMF is the acronym that is making life difficult for them.
Mageofsin on
It’s annoying because there’s people that should absolutely be removed and are using the system to stop that removal, unsure if this is the way, bit on the fence as like all things, there’s good and bad outcomes.
ken-doh on
So the tories are campaigning on destroying the EU/UK FTA and tearing up the GFA.
Absolute morons.
mattyb_uk on
Still rocking the 2024 playbook I see. Who gives a shit? Honestly
coffeewalnut08 on
They want to leave the ECHR so that they can water down our rights and we can become a true neo-feudal hellhole where the rich enjoy a life of luxury and the rest of us have to be grateful for scraps.
Imagine voting for this kind of future.
Also, it’s pathetic to try to compete with Reform. At least set up your own platform, and compete with the other parties on your own merits and original ideas. I have no respect for this kind of grifting.
The Tories are digging themselves a hole.
AngrySaltire on
Watching Conservatives complaining about the state of the country is like watching an arsonist who just petrol bombed a house, complain the house is on fire.
OiseauxDeath on
When will the adults and serious people take over the party again?
DufaqIsDis on
What can we ban next folks? Getting fast and hot these days
Chat_GDP on
Why is it everything she does is guaranteed to be the stupidest choice possible?
SadSeiko on
oh yes this is the act that will get them re-elected. The only way they will have a chance is if they use this opportunity to sack kemi
Optimaldeath on
Like they committed to reducing immigration dozens, hundreds of times?
Get lost.
Efficient_Sky5173 on
Yeah, and all of them will move to Kent. It will be called Toryland. Kentland.
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I’m sure Winston Churchill would be proud of the party that he once led, having campaigned so tirelessly for greater co-operation and union with Europe.
Good.
UK has the world’s most respected legal system and has been the most stable democracy in history.
We don’t need to be supervised by unelected bureaucrats.
This would be the point I leave the country and take my skills elsewhere.
It always amazes me how eager this country is to torch their own rights.
> However, former Conservative MP and shadow home secretary Dominic Grieve said in a recent interview, the Refugee Convention, rather than the ECHR, is what underpins the way asylum applications are processed.
This is important point but don’t worry, I’m sure leaving the ECHR won’t have any unexpected negative consequences for the public. Like say restricting union rights, cracking down on protests even more, further chipping away at our privacy. After all, the last decade has shown us just how much our governments love unions, protest, and privacy.
And of course, there’s no chance they’ll ever take a swing at reducing workers’ protections. Sure they’d have more power as we’d have lost the ability to appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. But our politicians? Those trustworthy bunch? We’ll be fine.
And hey, [what has the ECHR ever done for us anyway!?](https://youtu.be/ptfmAY6M6aA)
First Labour MP made the call to leave the ECHR earlier today as well. People are going to sulk about it, but it’s becoming a mainstream opinion.
They had their chance. They need to explain why they didn’t do it last time.
It always feels very good and not at all scary when a party wants to abandon an international Human Rights treaty because they kept trying to break it and getting caught. I am sure we can all trust that if in government they would have no ulterior motives and would not take advantage of this in any way. Especially when the articles they talk about wanting to scrap are minor ones like your protections from Government surveillance or unlawful seaches.
Its fine though, they will definitely replace it with an equally functional British version, just with a couple of very minor changes and exclusions for certain groups, nothing to worry about.
Take note. They’d trash their own parties legacy, and they would, and have happily, done the same to the country in the past.
What I don’t understand is that leaving the ECHR is desired because of the belief it’s stopping us controlling the border. Yet Poland are signed up to the ECHR and seem to have good control of their borders.
I feel it’s a push by the Tories and Reformers to dissolve rights of UK citizens even more (Labour are not immune from being anti-rights with their Online Safety Act too).
I know this might be selfish, but I’m not willing to give up the protections the ECHR affords me for the sake of deporting a few thousand “illegal immigrants”
UK managed before ECHR became law , UK will manage after. Time to leave ECHR, anybody who moans can blame themselves for blocking the control of immigration in the courts, in parliament and even on a passenger jet deporting a convicted jamican rapist/murderer to his home country. You know who you are , you are to blame.
How do they plan on doing that when it’s written into the Good Friday agreement and therefore part of NI law
Just another acronym to scare the ignorant. WEF, DEI and all that.
One day people might figure out that the IMF is the acronym that is making life difficult for them.
It’s annoying because there’s people that should absolutely be removed and are using the system to stop that removal, unsure if this is the way, bit on the fence as like all things, there’s good and bad outcomes.
So the tories are campaigning on destroying the EU/UK FTA and tearing up the GFA.
Absolute morons.
Still rocking the 2024 playbook I see. Who gives a shit? Honestly
They want to leave the ECHR so that they can water down our rights and we can become a true neo-feudal hellhole where the rich enjoy a life of luxury and the rest of us have to be grateful for scraps.
Imagine voting for this kind of future.
Also, it’s pathetic to try to compete with Reform. At least set up your own platform, and compete with the other parties on your own merits and original ideas. I have no respect for this kind of grifting.
The Tories are digging themselves a hole.
Watching Conservatives complaining about the state of the country is like watching an arsonist who just petrol bombed a house, complain the house is on fire.
When will the adults and serious people take over the party again?
What can we ban next folks? Getting fast and hot these days
Why is it everything she does is guaranteed to be the stupidest choice possible?
oh yes this is the act that will get them re-elected. The only way they will have a chance is if they use this opportunity to sack kemi
Like they committed to reducing immigration dozens, hundreds of times?
Get lost.
Yeah, and all of them will move to Kent. It will be called Toryland. Kentland.