> Streeting says Streeting and friends have not done enough to win over voters
FTFY
Can’t believe the gall he has to distance himself from what Labour is doing when he is probably the 3rd most influential cabinet minister all this time.
AstronomerAdvanced37 on
lol… they’ve gone against everything they promised.
Any-Memory2630 on
Then do something Streeting.
Ffs, don’t comment about Labour like you’re not a chief architect
Dedsnotdead on
Broken promises, lack of credible economic planning despite it being a near certainty that they would be elected and an almost prescient ability to alienate a large percentage of the electorate.
All achieved within just over a year and it’s almost time to double down on the problems caused directly by their maiden budget.
It’s actually impressive in a perverse way.
Cookyy2k on
Not done enough? They’ve not done anything. One of the major reasons they won is because people voted for “not the Tories”, it’s doesn’t look or feel like they’ve done anything other than just a continuation of the last 15 years, anything they have looked like doing differently they’ve backtracked on.
No_Syrup_6995 on
The “tell a good story” narrative was good in the past but in an era of social media where pessimism spreads like wildfire and people aren’t listening to mainstream media, I don’t think telling a story would change all that much.
Labour needs to be radical, in ways both sides of its party doesn’t like. Massive reduction in immigration on top of what has been done already, a wealth tax and many other economic measures to pay for more spending.
JackStrawWitchita on
They are actively doing everything they can to repel voters. They have made the Labour brand so toxic that no left-leaning party will want to go into coalition with them. Labour are doing everything possible to ensure right wing populists move into Downing St in 2029 with a landslide.
coffeewalnut08 on
Because the media spends more time putting Reform on a pedestal than evaluating what the government has done over the past year
David_Kennaway on
They have done enough to put voters off Labour for ever.
ghost-bagel on
Here’s a radical idea. You’ve got a huge majority. Why not focus on just making things better rather than worrying about the next election? The polls will fix themselves if people’s lives get better, and you’ve got until 2028/29 to do it.
Sea-Weakness-3101 on
No shit.
They have pissed off pensioners, socialists and proscribing palestine action as terrorist is full blown fascism.
Never vote labour again.
antbaby_machetesquad on
In their defence they have done pretty well at wining voters for other parties.
Diligent_Craft_1165 on
Labour couldn’t reduce spending _or_ increase taxes. They’re a lite version of the Tories. So scared to do the right things for the country out of fear of losing votes.
ilikebiiiigdicks on
He is a huge reason I can’t stand current Labour. He is just a disgusting weasel in every sense.
klepto_entropoid on
So far it feels like they have done as much as they possibly could and then some to isolate anyone with any shred of sympathy toward the Labour party. Excepting millionaires, global corporations, landlords, bankers, human rights lawyers and public sector quangos obviously..
Dalegalitarian on
And so continues Wesley Streeting’s campaign to usurp Sir Keir Starmer. I’m on the edge of my toilet seat wondering which unlikable prick will be on top in 2026
ProtonHyrax99 on
Streeting is a large part of why I stopped supporting the party. He’s accepted a huge amount of money from private healthcare companies, and seems to be trying to let them weasel their way into the NHS, and privatise it by degrees, in exchange.
He’s also poised to let fucking Palantir gain access to our healthcare records.
Mkwdr on
It seems less and less likely they will be able to do so before the next election. And the alternative is just populist wishful thinking as far as I can see.
BeenzieWeenzie on
Can say that again, Labour lost my vote when they called me a paedophile for criticising the very valid flaws in the online safety bill.
Lifetime labour voter, but next election my vote will be going Lib Dem or Green.
homeinthecity on
I mean he’s not wrong, but he’s also part of the problem. Labour hasn’t delivering anything meaningful, quickly enough.
JustChris40 on
“Don’t let Reform in they’ll destroy the NHS”
*Wes Streeting has entered the chat.*
Apwnalypse on
I mean yeah. And it’s hard to imagine the procedure focussed Starmer snapping out of it any time soon.
We’re basically at a point where the IMF will be here in 10 years and force us to cancel the triple lock, and Farage might be here in 5 years to smash much of the good parts of the state. Centrist politicians need to start overhauling massive parts of the machinery of the country, right now, or populists or technocrats are going to come in and do it on their terms, rather than ours. The long term trend for growth has declined to zero, and the inevitable next step after that is a long term recession trend.
Instead we are acting like it’s 1997, not doing anything unless it was in the manifesto, approved by focus groups, green papered, white papered, gold plated against judicial review and then subjected to judicial review anyway. The government needs to understand that unless change happens right now, it will be cancelled by others and never happen at all. Social care reform being put off for fours years is just insulting. They’re still kicking the can down the road even though there’s a sink hole in it.
Maybe in 1997 there was time for perfect legislation, but there isn’t now. Better written on a fag packet and forced through by Act of Parliament, because the alternative is nothing.
We should grant outline planning permission for a million homes, by act of parliament. This would plummet the price of potential residential land, give the construction industry the confidence of supply and increased profitability to hire huge quantities or workers, and spark an economic boom. The public and politicians says we need to build house, time to make them put their money where their mouth is. It’s easy to oppose one planning application that won’t make a dent, much harder to oppose on decision that would actually fix the problem.
And a host of other policies like it. Doing less doesn’t mean less opposition, it means opposition is better able to focus on your tiny measures. Better bombarding the media with huge overhauls so there is insufficient oxygen to oppose it all, then when you make some compromises, lots will still have gotten done.
The media and opinion polls don’t matter. What matters is the bond markets, and they will economically reward a government that is actually fixing things.
sjw_7 on
He’s not wrong. They listen to what the public is concerned about then instead of taking that on board and doing something about it they treat us like children and tell us to stop being silly. They immediately capitulated to the unions and handed out pay rises only to turn around, cry poverty and say the middle class has to pick up the tab again to fill the gap. They say the benefits system is unsustainable but panic when millionaire pensioners complain their winter fuel Christmas bonus is being taken away so apologise and carry on with the handouts.
The Constatives were an absolute disgrace for the last few years and had to go. But the only viable alternative was this clown show and we shouldn’t be surprised they are making such a mess. I don’t want Reform to get in power but with the incompetence of the main two parties we may as well accept that its inevitable.
Emotional-Ebb8321 on
Streeting – specifically, the policies that he personally has championed – is the main reason I will NOT be voting Labour next election.
Imperatoris_ on
It’s all well and good, the wait lists going down. Labour haven’t however addressed the ongoing deterioration of almost anything economic.
You’re right, Wes. You haven’t done enough. To ignore the scale of main issues, the issues that are making Reform popular, and offer small near negligible solutions to those problems make Labour unapproachable.
Party of change? Change my arse.
GamerGuyAlly on
You mean banning porn, calling everyone paedophiles and generally being technologically illiterate is not a real boon to the youth vote? Colour me stunned.
And on top of that, the old vote is decimated by winter fuel payments, the WASPI women, and just again a general lack of ideas on how to do anything to get them on their side.
It’s almost as if, selling your entire party and ethos to big business is not a good idea when your entire party exists to be the working class anti-big business party. If people wanted to support people who blow off American big businesses we’d have bent over and let the Tories continue fucking us.
Just let Reform make things worse already so we can get it over with. I’m tired.
Kamay1770 on
But they’ve done enough to lose life long labour voters like me. Such an own goal.
Absolute fucking joke what they are doing and both them and the Tories deserve a good, continuous kicking in any future elections.
They’ve become lazy, self serving and incompetent from the two party system.
Zedris on
Not only have the not-done anything worth me voting for them they have actively dissuaded me from voting for them again with every law or time starmer opened his mouth
lopolow on
Maybe they should stop trying to win over voters and try keep the ones that already voted for them from running away?
AnotherGreenWorld1 on
It seems to me that since Corbyn they’ve been on a mission to lose as many voters as possible.
Sophie-chan on
Maybe you should stop going after your own community then mate 😆
notleave_eu on
They’ve done nothing. And now they’re loosing voters like me.
The shit they are concentrating on does not solve real world problems for everyday folk.
For a clear example: How much time and energy have they spent this age verification for everyone to circumvent it.
OkMap3209 on
Labour really need to throw in some short term wins for people, because long term ones just aren’t good enough to keep people happy. Especially with how unaffordable things are getting right now.
Helpful_Talk on
What an oily cretin. Labour has targeted the vulnerable and disabled, introduced the Online Safety Act, and called anyone who opposed it paedophile supporters? While expensing VPNs? Or how about mass surveillance of bank accounts of most vulnerable? Or monitoring when, how long and where people go on holiday, spend their money? Lied about the country’s finances….
Necessary-Product361 on
And much of what they have done has been in the wrong direction. Its rich of Streeting to say this when is one of the reasons why little change has been delivered; he is influential and a blairite. Infact, he probably thinks further privatising the NHS and being more ruthless in Austerity will win over voters.
OliLombi on
It feels like everything they’ve done has been to lose votes… I say this as someone who has voted Labour all my life.
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> Streeting says Streeting and friends have not done enough to win over voters
FTFY
Can’t believe the gall he has to distance himself from what Labour is doing when he is probably the 3rd most influential cabinet minister all this time.
lol… they’ve gone against everything they promised.
Then do something Streeting.
Ffs, don’t comment about Labour like you’re not a chief architect
Broken promises, lack of credible economic planning despite it being a near certainty that they would be elected and an almost prescient ability to alienate a large percentage of the electorate.
All achieved within just over a year and it’s almost time to double down on the problems caused directly by their maiden budget.
It’s actually impressive in a perverse way.
Not done enough? They’ve not done anything. One of the major reasons they won is because people voted for “not the Tories”, it’s doesn’t look or feel like they’ve done anything other than just a continuation of the last 15 years, anything they have looked like doing differently they’ve backtracked on.
The “tell a good story” narrative was good in the past but in an era of social media where pessimism spreads like wildfire and people aren’t listening to mainstream media, I don’t think telling a story would change all that much.
Labour needs to be radical, in ways both sides of its party doesn’t like. Massive reduction in immigration on top of what has been done already, a wealth tax and many other economic measures to pay for more spending.
They are actively doing everything they can to repel voters. They have made the Labour brand so toxic that no left-leaning party will want to go into coalition with them. Labour are doing everything possible to ensure right wing populists move into Downing St in 2029 with a landslide.
Because the media spends more time putting Reform on a pedestal than evaluating what the government has done over the past year
They have done enough to put voters off Labour for ever.
Here’s a radical idea. You’ve got a huge majority. Why not focus on just making things better rather than worrying about the next election? The polls will fix themselves if people’s lives get better, and you’ve got until 2028/29 to do it.
No shit.
They have pissed off pensioners, socialists and proscribing palestine action as terrorist is full blown fascism.
Never vote labour again.
In their defence they have done pretty well at wining voters for other parties.
Labour couldn’t reduce spending _or_ increase taxes. They’re a lite version of the Tories. So scared to do the right things for the country out of fear of losing votes.
He is a huge reason I can’t stand current Labour. He is just a disgusting weasel in every sense.
So far it feels like they have done as much as they possibly could and then some to isolate anyone with any shred of sympathy toward the Labour party. Excepting millionaires, global corporations, landlords, bankers, human rights lawyers and public sector quangos obviously..
And so continues Wesley Streeting’s campaign to usurp Sir Keir Starmer. I’m on the edge of my toilet seat wondering which unlikable prick will be on top in 2026
Streeting is a large part of why I stopped supporting the party. He’s accepted a huge amount of money from private healthcare companies, and seems to be trying to let them weasel their way into the NHS, and privatise it by degrees, in exchange.
He’s also poised to let fucking Palantir gain access to our healthcare records.
It seems less and less likely they will be able to do so before the next election. And the alternative is just populist wishful thinking as far as I can see.
Can say that again, Labour lost my vote when they called me a paedophile for criticising the very valid flaws in the online safety bill.
Lifetime labour voter, but next election my vote will be going Lib Dem or Green.
I mean he’s not wrong, but he’s also part of the problem. Labour hasn’t delivering anything meaningful, quickly enough.
“Don’t let Reform in they’ll destroy the NHS”
*Wes Streeting has entered the chat.*
I mean yeah. And it’s hard to imagine the procedure focussed Starmer snapping out of it any time soon.
We’re basically at a point where the IMF will be here in 10 years and force us to cancel the triple lock, and Farage might be here in 5 years to smash much of the good parts of the state. Centrist politicians need to start overhauling massive parts of the machinery of the country, right now, or populists or technocrats are going to come in and do it on their terms, rather than ours. The long term trend for growth has declined to zero, and the inevitable next step after that is a long term recession trend.
Instead we are acting like it’s 1997, not doing anything unless it was in the manifesto, approved by focus groups, green papered, white papered, gold plated against judicial review and then subjected to judicial review anyway. The government needs to understand that unless change happens right now, it will be cancelled by others and never happen at all. Social care reform being put off for fours years is just insulting. They’re still kicking the can down the road even though there’s a sink hole in it.
Maybe in 1997 there was time for perfect legislation, but there isn’t now. Better written on a fag packet and forced through by Act of Parliament, because the alternative is nothing.
We should grant outline planning permission for a million homes, by act of parliament. This would plummet the price of potential residential land, give the construction industry the confidence of supply and increased profitability to hire huge quantities or workers, and spark an economic boom. The public and politicians says we need to build house, time to make them put their money where their mouth is. It’s easy to oppose one planning application that won’t make a dent, much harder to oppose on decision that would actually fix the problem.
And a host of other policies like it. Doing less doesn’t mean less opposition, it means opposition is better able to focus on your tiny measures. Better bombarding the media with huge overhauls so there is insufficient oxygen to oppose it all, then when you make some compromises, lots will still have gotten done.
The media and opinion polls don’t matter. What matters is the bond markets, and they will economically reward a government that is actually fixing things.
He’s not wrong. They listen to what the public is concerned about then instead of taking that on board and doing something about it they treat us like children and tell us to stop being silly. They immediately capitulated to the unions and handed out pay rises only to turn around, cry poverty and say the middle class has to pick up the tab again to fill the gap. They say the benefits system is unsustainable but panic when millionaire pensioners complain their winter fuel Christmas bonus is being taken away so apologise and carry on with the handouts.
The Constatives were an absolute disgrace for the last few years and had to go. But the only viable alternative was this clown show and we shouldn’t be surprised they are making such a mess. I don’t want Reform to get in power but with the incompetence of the main two parties we may as well accept that its inevitable.
Streeting – specifically, the policies that he personally has championed – is the main reason I will NOT be voting Labour next election.
It’s all well and good, the wait lists going down. Labour haven’t however addressed the ongoing deterioration of almost anything economic.
You’re right, Wes. You haven’t done enough. To ignore the scale of main issues, the issues that are making Reform popular, and offer small near negligible solutions to those problems make Labour unapproachable.
Party of change? Change my arse.
You mean banning porn, calling everyone paedophiles and generally being technologically illiterate is not a real boon to the youth vote? Colour me stunned.
And on top of that, the old vote is decimated by winter fuel payments, the WASPI women, and just again a general lack of ideas on how to do anything to get them on their side.
It’s almost as if, selling your entire party and ethos to big business is not a good idea when your entire party exists to be the working class anti-big business party. If people wanted to support people who blow off American big businesses we’d have bent over and let the Tories continue fucking us.
Just let Reform make things worse already so we can get it over with. I’m tired.
But they’ve done enough to lose life long labour voters like me. Such an own goal.
Absolute fucking joke what they are doing and both them and the Tories deserve a good, continuous kicking in any future elections.
They’ve become lazy, self serving and incompetent from the two party system.
Not only have the not-done anything worth me voting for them they have actively dissuaded me from voting for them again with every law or time starmer opened his mouth
Maybe they should stop trying to win over voters and try keep the ones that already voted for them from running away?
It seems to me that since Corbyn they’ve been on a mission to lose as many voters as possible.
Maybe you should stop going after your own community then mate 😆
They’ve done nothing. And now they’re loosing voters like me.
The shit they are concentrating on does not solve real world problems for everyday folk.
For a clear example: How much time and energy have they spent this age verification for everyone to circumvent it.
Labour really need to throw in some short term wins for people, because long term ones just aren’t good enough to keep people happy. Especially with how unaffordable things are getting right now.
What an oily cretin. Labour has targeted the vulnerable and disabled, introduced the Online Safety Act, and called anyone who opposed it paedophile supporters? While expensing VPNs? Or how about mass surveillance of bank accounts of most vulnerable? Or monitoring when, how long and where people go on holiday, spend their money? Lied about the country’s finances….
And much of what they have done has been in the wrong direction. Its rich of Streeting to say this when is one of the reasons why little change has been delivered; he is influential and a blairite. Infact, he probably thinks further privatising the NHS and being more ruthless in Austerity will win over voters.
It feels like everything they’ve done has been to lose votes… I say this as someone who has voted Labour all my life.