There are 600k job vacancies with 1.7 million umploymed… they’re being a little too naive in thinking they will find a job.
Lo_jak on
Ah yes just what we need, waves of unskilled workers….. people coming to the UK with actual skills on visas are no problem but we cannot support this level of migration of unskilled workers.
Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n on
Read the article and that guy can get f***ed with being given paid work, we have less than a million jobs available and more than one million jobless.
The solution to his described problem is something to do, or purpose. Where does he think these magical jobs are going to come from?
So I offer a solution that benefits everyone – they voluntarily do community service. If they do 40 hours a week, for 3 to six months, it gets looked favourably on their application.
Have them plant trees, remove graffiti, clean playgrounds of broken bottles, work in soup kitchens – whatever benefits people at a community level.
Edit: As pointed out by the commentator before (please give them an upvote) – they CAN volunteer or do charity work. But that’s not what the man in the article is wanting.
The asylum seekers should have applied for a job when outside the UK, like all the other legal migrants.
Krabsandwich on
A great many Asylum Seekers already work in the gig and black economy and in many cases that is part of the draw that brings then to the UK (no ID papers makes working far easier). I hardly think allowing them to work would reduce the number coming or the number of those asylum seekers preferring cash in hand no questions asked, no one likes paying tax and national insurance.
NamesEuropeanBob on
Unfortunately due to years of underinvestment by successive governments our infrastructure is creaking and we don’t have capacity for lots of extra unskilled people right now. We certainly shouldn’t be putting them up in hotels.
Would suggest an annual asylum seeker quota say 50k per year. Taken directly from refugee camps, and 50/50 split of men and women with priority for children and elderly
If you come over any other way you get shipped back to a random refugee camp of our choice. If you are found guilty of a crime same thing.
South_Buy_3175 on
Oh aye, let’s just give you *exactly* what you want?
Put citizens first and don’t let these people work, there’s not enough jobs.
WhalingSmithers00 on
That’s not asylum seeking though that’s just economic migration
ne6c on
How about we detain you in a jail cell when you cross as you fundamentally broke the law and within 72h we either grant or reject your asylum claim.
If there’s inconsistencies with the claim or you can’t produce of where you came from we default to reject and deport.
If we can’t stop the boats, let’s make the system highly efficient then. First time a country rejects an asylum seeker we expel their embassy staff. Second time they do it, we double the import tariffs and block remittances. Third time we start cancelling visas, and so on.
storm_borm on
It does appear that many of these people have a false impression of the UK. They think it’s a haven where anyone can get by and there is plenty of housing and jobs. There is a crisis of youth unemployment. That’s where the focus should be.
pajamakitten on
All they will be able to do are the jobs illegal immigrants are already doing: restaurant work, delivery drivers, car washes etc. Unless they can speak English to a satisfactory level and have proof of qualifications that are recognised in their home country and the UK, they are shit out of luck on the job front. That is not a criticism of them but the harsh reality of being new to the UK. They are unskilled and have little to no English: what qualifies them for any basic job here? That ignores the fact that there are not enough jobs for people already here too. The sad fact is we do not actually need these people for the economy.
nbenj1990 on
Why don’t we put those awaiting a decision on community service? Not as a punishment but to increase their local ties,boost integration and help with language skills?
Get them poo picking,litter picking,cutting grass,volunteering in care homes,libraries and charity shops?
HerpaDerpaDumDum on
Loads of these people apply for benefits and work the minimum hours required (18 hours) to keep those benefits. Absolutely taking the piss.
LonelyStranger8467 on
Allowing everyone with an active asylum claim to work legally would be insane by the way.
Currently people with expiring visas will claim asylum just to extend their stay in the UK for another year or two, even if their claim has no merit. That’s because you preserve the working rights of the visa you entered on (Section 3C)
If you didn’t care about visiting the UK again you could just enter as a visitor. Claim asylum, work for a couple of years and then get paid via the voluntary return scheme to go home.
It would also increase the number of people who would choose the UK over some other European countries. The sooner you can send money to your family and pay back the loan you took for the smuggling the better.
wkavinsky on
I’m not anti-asylum by any means, but just, no.
Asylum isn’t there to allow you to move countries for work.
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There are 600k job vacancies with 1.7 million umploymed… they’re being a little too naive in thinking they will find a job.
Ah yes just what we need, waves of unskilled workers….. people coming to the UK with actual skills on visas are no problem but we cannot support this level of migration of unskilled workers.
Read the article and that guy can get f***ed with being given paid work, we have less than a million jobs available and more than one million jobless.
The solution to his described problem is something to do, or purpose. Where does he think these magical jobs are going to come from?
So I offer a solution that benefits everyone – they voluntarily do community service. If they do 40 hours a week, for 3 to six months, it gets looked favourably on their application.
Have them plant trees, remove graffiti, clean playgrounds of broken bottles, work in soup kitchens – whatever benefits people at a community level.
Edit: As pointed out by the commentator before (please give them an upvote) – they CAN volunteer or do charity work. But that’s not what the man in the article is wanting.
Source: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/handling-applications-for-permission-to-take-employment-instruction/permission-to-work-and-volunteering-for-asylum-seekers-accessible#:~:text=Asylum%20seekers%20can%20volunteer%20whilst%20their%20claim,volunteering%20for%20charities%20or%20public%20sector%20organisations.
The asylum seekers should have applied for a job when outside the UK, like all the other legal migrants.
A great many Asylum Seekers already work in the gig and black economy and in many cases that is part of the draw that brings then to the UK (no ID papers makes working far easier). I hardly think allowing them to work would reduce the number coming or the number of those asylum seekers preferring cash in hand no questions asked, no one likes paying tax and national insurance.
Unfortunately due to years of underinvestment by successive governments our infrastructure is creaking and we don’t have capacity for lots of extra unskilled people right now. We certainly shouldn’t be putting them up in hotels.
Would suggest an annual asylum seeker quota say 50k per year. Taken directly from refugee camps, and 50/50 split of men and women with priority for children and elderly
If you come over any other way you get shipped back to a random refugee camp of our choice. If you are found guilty of a crime same thing.
Oh aye, let’s just give you *exactly* what you want?
Put citizens first and don’t let these people work, there’s not enough jobs.
That’s not asylum seeking though that’s just economic migration
How about we detain you in a jail cell when you cross as you fundamentally broke the law and within 72h we either grant or reject your asylum claim.
If there’s inconsistencies with the claim or you can’t produce of where you came from we default to reject and deport.
If we can’t stop the boats, let’s make the system highly efficient then. First time a country rejects an asylum seeker we expel their embassy staff. Second time they do it, we double the import tariffs and block remittances. Third time we start cancelling visas, and so on.
It does appear that many of these people have a false impression of the UK. They think it’s a haven where anyone can get by and there is plenty of housing and jobs. There is a crisis of youth unemployment. That’s where the focus should be.
All they will be able to do are the jobs illegal immigrants are already doing: restaurant work, delivery drivers, car washes etc. Unless they can speak English to a satisfactory level and have proof of qualifications that are recognised in their home country and the UK, they are shit out of luck on the job front. That is not a criticism of them but the harsh reality of being new to the UK. They are unskilled and have little to no English: what qualifies them for any basic job here? That ignores the fact that there are not enough jobs for people already here too. The sad fact is we do not actually need these people for the economy.
Why don’t we put those awaiting a decision on community service? Not as a punishment but to increase their local ties,boost integration and help with language skills?
Get them poo picking,litter picking,cutting grass,volunteering in care homes,libraries and charity shops?
Loads of these people apply for benefits and work the minimum hours required (18 hours) to keep those benefits. Absolutely taking the piss.
Allowing everyone with an active asylum claim to work legally would be insane by the way.
Currently people with expiring visas will claim asylum just to extend their stay in the UK for another year or two, even if their claim has no merit. That’s because you preserve the working rights of the visa you entered on (Section 3C)
If you didn’t care about visiting the UK again you could just enter as a visitor. Claim asylum, work for a couple of years and then get paid via the voluntary return scheme to go home.
It would also increase the number of people who would choose the UK over some other European countries. The sooner you can send money to your family and pay back the loan you took for the smuggling the better.
I’m not anti-asylum by any means, but just, no.
Asylum isn’t there to allow you to move countries for work.