Is Europes pullout game that much stronger than ours? Eek 😬
Academic-Flan-2316 on
the more higher education, the fewer births.
edit: the higher the religiousity, the more births.
those two factors combined explain the observed data reasonably well
prozapari on
What the fuck i though we had basically the same birth rate?
bot_upboat on
Birth decline is going to become an issue on par with climate change.
halee1 on
It’s because of historically less immigration from regions with higher fertility rates. And even if mothers come from regions with low fertility rates (like Europe or East Asia), they still add to the total number of births, so higher immigration in general will always increase “all births” (it’s obviously a bit different if we’re talking about fertility **rates**). It’s the same reason why fertility rates are higher in the EU than in East Asia: the latter countries have had even less immigration.
Higher historical religiosity in the US has probably helped too, but keep in mind that religious people are probably gonna be less productive, so the true benefits from their higher fertility rates really come during the transition from being religious to non-religious, when the additional born people are fully channeled into economic life. And the US has also become less religious over time, so even if secularization there has plateaued or is decreasing slightly in this decade, it’s probably just another blip in long-term trends.
fallsdarkness on
*fewer
Subj3ctX on
Source?
Also shouldn’t say Europe if you’re talking about the EU (i assume), they’re not the same thing.
JJOne101 on
Anti abortion laws doing their thing in America.
heatrealist on
cannot compete with unregulated American virility
ConsciousStorm8 on
Europeans do not have 6 different babies from 5 different daddies?
hate665 on
Idiocracy it’s a documentary
zmrth on
Not even sure i’ll ever want kids tbh. Everything sucks.
It’s called education. And it’s the answer to everything.
uniklyqualifd on
I wonder if trump will allow the births to be published this year if there’s a big drop.
no-comment-only-lurk on
The US has more immigrants and religious communities with high birth rates.
Dragon2906 on
So far yes, let’s see how this looks like after all these ICE-actions
TryCopingPlz on
The more liberal a country is, the worse birth rates.
Wolfhart on
I don’t know about USA, but in Poland there is growing problem of people and companies buying out real estate as an investment to either rent or even just hold it to sell later.
Someone like me, who earns 4500 pln net (~1000 euro) as a Delphi programmer have no way to buy a flat or home, so how could I even think about having kids?
DPSharkB8 on
Does anyone on reddit know how to correctly use the words “less” or “fewer”?
Connect-Idea-1944 on
yes we get it we have low birth rate
Silent-Aspect-8070 on
The US is needs to do its best because long and healthy life is apparently not a goal there. 🙂
Hokkaido_Japanese445 on
america has over 340,000,000 people while europe has over 700,000,000 people
but I do dedinitely agree that birth rates should be as high as possible
Forsaken-Link-5859 on
Fitting Europe feels pessimistic while USA feels optimistic in general, in people’s mindset
angeltabris_ on
Yeah i cant afford to piss nevermind have a baby
bete_du_gevaudan on
This goes with the trend of more educated people having less kids
Sizeablegrapefruits on
It’s no surprise. In the 2001 census 87.5% of the British population was white:British and by the 2021 census the same category was 74.4%.
London itself went from about 59% white:British to 37% in 2021.
That’s the way it’s gone for western Europe. The government has sought migration to deal with this demographic downturn.
(I hope I don’t get a permanent ban. Last time I cited census data, Reddit removed the comment and gave me a warning)
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Is Europes pullout game that much stronger than ours? Eek 😬
the more higher education, the fewer births.
edit: the higher the religiousity, the more births.
those two factors combined explain the observed data reasonably well
What the fuck i though we had basically the same birth rate?
Birth decline is going to become an issue on par with climate change.
It’s because of historically less immigration from regions with higher fertility rates. And even if mothers come from regions with low fertility rates (like Europe or East Asia), they still add to the total number of births, so higher immigration in general will always increase “all births” (it’s obviously a bit different if we’re talking about fertility **rates**). It’s the same reason why fertility rates are higher in the EU than in East Asia: the latter countries have had even less immigration.
Higher historical religiosity in the US has probably helped too, but keep in mind that religious people are probably gonna be less productive, so the true benefits from their higher fertility rates really come during the transition from being religious to non-religious, when the additional born people are fully channeled into economic life. And the US has also become less religious over time, so even if secularization there has plateaued or is decreasing slightly in this decade, it’s probably just another blip in long-term trends.
*fewer
Source?
Also shouldn’t say Europe if you’re talking about the EU (i assume), they’re not the same thing.
Anti abortion laws doing their thing in America.
cannot compete with unregulated American virility
Europeans do not have 6 different babies from 5 different daddies?
Idiocracy it’s a documentary
Not even sure i’ll ever want kids tbh. Everything sucks.
We’re deep into [ecological overshoot](https://overshoot.footprintnetwork.org/newsroom/country-overshoot-days/), so we need a one-child policy in every country world wide.
Are they going to tarif us on this too?
It’s called education. And it’s the answer to everything.
I wonder if trump will allow the births to be published this year if there’s a big drop.
The US has more immigrants and religious communities with high birth rates.
So far yes, let’s see how this looks like after all these ICE-actions
The more liberal a country is, the worse birth rates.
I don’t know about USA, but in Poland there is growing problem of people and companies buying out real estate as an investment to either rent or even just hold it to sell later.
Someone like me, who earns 4500 pln net (~1000 euro) as a Delphi programmer have no way to buy a flat or home, so how could I even think about having kids?
Does anyone on reddit know how to correctly use the words “less” or “fewer”?
yes we get it we have low birth rate
The US is needs to do its best because long and healthy life is apparently not a goal there. 🙂
america has over 340,000,000 people while europe has over 700,000,000 people
but I do dedinitely agree that birth rates should be as high as possible
Fitting Europe feels pessimistic while USA feels optimistic in general, in people’s mindset
Yeah i cant afford to piss nevermind have a baby
This goes with the trend of more educated people having less kids
It’s no surprise. In the 2001 census 87.5% of the British population was white:British and by the 2021 census the same category was 74.4%.
London itself went from about 59% white:British to 37% in 2021.
That’s the way it’s gone for western Europe. The government has sought migration to deal with this demographic downturn.
(I hope I don’t get a permanent ban. Last time I cited census data, Reddit removed the comment and gave me a warning)