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    Il tasso di fertilità per l’Inghilterra e il Galles cade a un nuovo record basso

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    1. golf_is_quite_hard on

      Is it any fucking wonder? On paper me and the Mrs are doing great. We couldn’t afford to have kids. Even if we did, what are we going to tell them? “Work hard and you can be successful”?

    2. radiant_0wl on

      In 2023 40% of births involved at least one parent being born outside the UK.

      Curious whether that has gone up too.

    3. John_Williams_1977 on

      People don’t want kids and have a socially acceptable excuse – ‘money’.

      Poorer people have more children than richer people. Money was never a barrier before.

      Women went from a world of limited opportunities to a world of endless opportunities – and having kids means giving up so much more than their parents had to.

      Career + travel + free time OR change nappies.

      Women are saying thanks but no thanks.

    4. LaCornucopia_ on

      Why do these articles always post pictures of babies’ feet man, it’s creepy

    5. New_7688 on

      I desperately want children but have no idea how I would afford them. I have barely £200 left over each month after rent, bills, tax etc. I want my children to be able to go to fun experiences, sports clubs, I don’t want them to feel like they’re struggling as we penny pinch to afford food every month.

    6. Catherine_S1234 on

      Another post that I need to remind people that this has nothing to do with being able to afford kids and everything to do with people just not wanting kids

      People in 1850 were having 8 kids despite living in slums and middle class people are having no more than 3 or three if they have kids at all. Who do you think can afford kids more?

    7. SeniorHouseOfficer on

      Median full time equivalent wage was ~37k last time I checked. But for 20-29 year olds it’s 32k.

      But childcare is so expensive, that often one parent has to drop to part time. And if they’re part time, affording more than one kid is a nightmare.

      And half of 20-29 year olds are earning less than 32k.

      The problem is young people don’t have the money to have kids.

      Fix the economy, and maybe we’ll have a stable birth rate.

    8. ancapailldorcha on

      So successive governments took the hardest and most expensive thing most people will ever do and then made even harder and even more expensive.

      How can anyone possibly be surprised that this is the result?

    9. Exxtraa on

      I mean the cost of living is astronomical. And also has anyone tried dating in their 30’s? This generation is going to have the lowest reproduction rates on record. Nobody can choose a partner anymore.

    10. HexaDecio on

      The government could fix this shit by introducing tax incentives, fair maternity and paternity leave and affordable childcare.

      But they won’t do that. And then wonder why people don’t want babies. Then the cycle will begin again.

      We really need to take notes from countries such as Norway.

    11. LiIywhite on

      I can afford kids right now but don’t have the space for them. If I moved to a place with room for kids I wouldn’t be able to afford them

    12. The--Devil on

      The crux of the issue:

      – Raising children in a relatively luxury environment is expensive and wages have stagnated for over a decade while housing costs have ballooned

      – In the Modern age, having children can be much less appealing than travelling + free time.

      How do you solve this without insane levels of migration? I would argue cheap housing, tax incentives and more child care benefits for parents.

    13. Grim_Reaper17 on

      It costs the state a fortune to educate each child. Money well spent if they end up working but a waste of money if they sit at home watching Tiktok and claiming disability payments.

    14. Zugiata on

      Yeah I’m not going to bring a new life to just become another tax-payer for your system, thanks

    15. lumsni on

      Curious as top why London and West Midlands are opposing this trend, especially when these are probably the more expensive regions to get a family friendly property

    16. SubjectCraft8475 on

      They can at the least start by not taking away child benefit and marriage tax allowance after you earn more than 60k. Or even more benefits such as being able to give tax free allowance of the partner who decides to stop working temporarily to their working partner. For example if my wife stops working and I earn 100k, I should be able to have 24k tax free allowance, and 60k taxed at 20 percent, then the left over taxed at 40 percent.

      This would let more affluent working class have more kids rather than a cycle of people who pump out kids and claim benefits.

      I have 2 kids but unfortunately im not planning more simply because having more kids will downgrade my lifestyle financially a lot more, id rather be comfortable. But if the benefits I listed for tax free allowance was there I would have not minded having more kids and my wife continuento take time off easing kids. But im no fan of juggling kids and having 2 people work full time just to live a decent life financially.

    17. TheBeaverKing on

      I’m shocked! Shocked, I tell you!

      This is what happens when the government has to appease the largest voter base. The 50+ y.o. demand their triple locked pensions and fuel allowances, otherwise they’ll vote en masse to remove the party in power.

      The government have limited options to increase revenue, so anything funding the younger generations has to be cut or suppressed to compensate.

      If you’re under 40 and don’t vote, this is on you.

    18. AgitatedAd7265 on

      I have a good job and a good wage. But it’s 24/7 and involves shift work. No option to get out of it. I’d have to pay most of my wage just for childcare. Plus I’d be dealing with a child while recovering from night shifts. When there is no childcare facilities available for nights

    19. ash_ninetyone on

      It’s expensive. Couples work and barely struggle to give themselves a comfortable life, let alone a kid.

      I try to be positive, hopeful, and guard against cynicism, but the world feels increasingly hostile and dystopian atm.

    20. slartybartfast6 on

      Have you seen the cost of living and worse, the cost of childcare!

    21. Commercial_Chef_1569 on

      I would if I got child care benefits, but making 120k i don’t

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