>The reason for the plan is external pressure — the commander [of Karelia Air Wing, Colonel Tomi Böhm] said the Air Force has faced awkward situations, for instance, when working with Americans.
>”We could have continued with this flag, but sometimes awkward situations can arise with foreign visitors. It may be wise to live with the times,” Böhm said.
[…]
>The swastika emblem was adopted by the Air Force in 1918, long before the German Nazi Party adopted it in the 1930s. Its use is now illegal or restricted in Germany and many other countries. The Finnish Air Force used it on aircraft until 1945. The swastika was added to flags in the 1950s.
Downtown-Act-590 on
This is a wrong step.
They have it for a different reason then the Nazis and it is a symbol of the air force that fought for their independence from the oppressors.
Don’t let the Nazis win this one.
Successful_Debt_7036 on
Pakko. Olla. Hyvä. Poika.
SekoitettuTripla on
“problematic” but not problematic enough for Stalin (or anyone after him) to ask for it’s removal. Didn’t also stop the Soviets from selling them Mig-21s
boobookittyfuwk on
The nazis really f’d it up for everyone didn’t they. It’s actually a cool looking symbol, something about its style and shape and uniformity is appealing to the eye.
Has nothing to do with nazis but have naturally made som people raise their eyebrows when they see it.
aerodynamik on
its an unfortunate but propably necessary step.
anything that can be misconstrued by bad faith media as “THEY B NAZIS!!!1!1” needs to be considered.
Stormblush on
This decision isn’t about Finland forgetting its past, it’s about recognizing that in diplomacy, perception outweighs intent.
tofiwashere on
I guess it is better this way. The explaining will just never end, and since we have more and more cooperation with the Americans (and others), it just gets annoying. They aren’t exactly known for caring about other countries’ history, and even if they were, it’s not fair to assume someone would know the Finnish Air Force has had the swastika since the very first plane in March 1918.
I don’t at least have such sentimental feelings towards one logo that I have hang on it forever. I didn’t serve in the Air Force either and understand if other folks have different feelings.
TrinityCodex on
Sounds like a good plan
BrotherRoga on
Personally it doesnt matter to me what the symbol is.
At least this way idiots won’t have the freebie they believe they have.
Nvrmnde on
I bet they got tired of explaining it’s history over and over. Easier this way.
YahenP on
How tired I am of these hurray-fighters-against-Nazism, looking for a pretext everywhere. Let’s also ban the German language. To be sure to defeat the Nazi hydra. It is, of course, not as ancient and widespread as the swastika, but it is also not bad.
Financial_Building_9 on
Sensible choice and amazing example for Ukrainian state to stop using bandera, upa and ss-galizien symbols in their country defending it as purely patriotic.
KAPULAX2 on
This is stupid, I hope alt-right, 4chan nazis, whatever starts using rainbow flag so it too can be remembered as hate symbol
ConfusedAdmin53 on
Easier to change the identifier of an entire air force than educating Americans. 😂
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They haven’t did this like 80 years ago?
We should keep it. It nicely triggers ruzzkiez
From the article:
>The reason for the plan is external pressure — the commander [of Karelia Air Wing, Colonel Tomi Böhm] said the Air Force has faced awkward situations, for instance, when working with Americans.
>”We could have continued with this flag, but sometimes awkward situations can arise with foreign visitors. It may be wise to live with the times,” Böhm said.
[…]
>The swastika emblem was adopted by the Air Force in 1918, long before the German Nazi Party adopted it in the 1930s. Its use is now illegal or restricted in Germany and many other countries. The Finnish Air Force used it on aircraft until 1945. The swastika was added to flags in the 1950s.
This is a wrong step.
They have it for a different reason then the Nazis and it is a symbol of the air force that fought for their independence from the oppressors.
Don’t let the Nazis win this one.
Pakko. Olla. Hyvä. Poika.
“problematic” but not problematic enough for Stalin (or anyone after him) to ask for it’s removal. Didn’t also stop the Soviets from selling them Mig-21s
The nazis really f’d it up for everyone didn’t they. It’s actually a cool looking symbol, something about its style and shape and uniformity is appealing to the eye.
Who cares about what foreigners think
Reminds me of [this gate](https://old.arkitektnytt.no/imager/uploads/images/40850/91f704f67029be8230eabae362e81c43.jpg) in Oslo.
Has nothing to do with nazis but have naturally made som people raise their eyebrows when they see it.
its an unfortunate but propably necessary step.
anything that can be misconstrued by bad faith media as “THEY B NAZIS!!!1!1” needs to be considered.
This decision isn’t about Finland forgetting its past, it’s about recognizing that in diplomacy, perception outweighs intent.
I guess it is better this way. The explaining will just never end, and since we have more and more cooperation with the Americans (and others), it just gets annoying. They aren’t exactly known for caring about other countries’ history, and even if they were, it’s not fair to assume someone would know the Finnish Air Force has had the swastika since the very first plane in March 1918.
I don’t at least have such sentimental feelings towards one logo that I have hang on it forever. I didn’t serve in the Air Force either and understand if other folks have different feelings.
Sounds like a good plan
Personally it doesnt matter to me what the symbol is.
At least this way idiots won’t have the freebie they believe they have.
I bet they got tired of explaining it’s history over and over. Easier this way.
How tired I am of these hurray-fighters-against-Nazism, looking for a pretext everywhere. Let’s also ban the German language. To be sure to defeat the Nazi hydra. It is, of course, not as ancient and widespread as the swastika, but it is also not bad.
Sensible choice and amazing example for Ukrainian state to stop using bandera, upa and ss-galizien symbols in their country defending it as purely patriotic.
This is stupid, I hope alt-right, 4chan nazis, whatever starts using rainbow flag so it too can be remembered as hate symbol
Easier to change the identifier of an entire air force than educating Americans. 😂