4chan si replica nel Regno Unito

There is no way this is real, right?

 

 

Right?

While I strongly disagree with the UK’s overreach in this case, this 4chan “response” is completely detached from reality.

Sounds like Trump and Musk’s rantings were thrown into a bot and cranked this out.

That’s some distilled American stupidity of supreme quality there.

Actually hillarious.

I’m all against any of Europe’s censorship agendas, BUT: Calling the internet “American” is the biggest load of bullshit I’ve ever heard. Wow.

Trump appealing language or genuine stupidity?

Someone should explain that the World Wide Web was invented by a Brit, and that America is already a global laughing stock, and that they couldn’t start a fire by rubbing their collective braincells together….arsenal’s..

Huh? I would have expected more slurs…

Built the Internet?

Tim Berners Lee.

If you’re doing business in the UK, then you’re subject to UK law for that business.

If you don’t want to comply with UK law, that’s fine. Watch as the UK cuts off your UK advertisers, suppliers, service providers (e.g. credit card processors), etc. and maybe even puts a block on your website being accessed from the UK at all.

Of course you can say “Hey, free speech, USA, USA, USA” and all the other nonsense you want to.

But international law has this kind of established for decades already. Even responding to certain claims can establish some jurisdiction claims on your behalf… you acknowledged their legal service but disagree, but in doing so you’ve kind of acknowledged that they have the right to serve you there. You can disagree all you like, but you may well find that you’ve just harmed your case just by responding. Welcome to why law school and lawyers are expensive, as other bolshy-responders have sometimes found out.

But this is all fine. You don’t want to be subject to UK law because you think it has no jurisdiction over you (and maybe in the “District of Columbia” it doesn’t). But by saying that you are basically saying that “we don’t want to conduct legal business in your jurisdiction”. No problem. Good on you, champ. (little playful fistbump to your chin).

Now… about those credit cards you’re taking from UK users, those weren’t valid business transactions then, right? Those advertisers who paid you money aren’t paying someone in their legal jurisdiction, right? That ISP you use, that domain name you access via, that cloud service you’re using… none of that comes under our jurisdiction, right? Because they wouldn’t be found conducting business with you if ask them, right? And they are, in some cases, UK or UK-based or conducting business in the UK and hence fully smack-bang in our jurisdiction, subject to our laws, and we can dictate who they do and don’t do business with, starting with anyone who believes themselves not subject to our laws.

It’s fine. You don’t need to, say, implement different sets of rules for your users in the UK and the rest of the world. Same way that you don’t need to implement different sets of rules for your users in China. Or deal with EU GDPR or cookie laws. Or whatever happens in Russian media. Or Outer Mongolia. You don’t *have to*. But then we don’t *have to* allow you to take payments from our banking system, or conduct business with our businesses.

There’s a reason companies often set up a China subsidiary, and an EU subsidiary and others… because they find that losing an entire country of customers hurts for the sake of not following the local laws. China drives this home an awful lot, for example, even Apple has a China subsidiary. And Microsoft. And so on.

And given that just a few months ago, 4chan were making news that “external pressure” on their payment providers, Internet hosts, service providers etc. was really hurting them and hampering their business… it’s probably not wise to ADD to that external pressure, where places which process credit cards for UK customers and businesses find that they’re simply… not allowed to send you money, or take money from you to provide a service. It just… doesn’t happen. It’s blocked in the banking system. Or even access to the IP range you use is blocked entirely in the country. Sure, you can spin up other servers, other hosts, proxies, mirrors. That’s what The Pirate Bay did. Let us know how that goes on that shoestring budget with “external pressure” already.

Nobody is saying you must legally comply with every whim of any foreign nation. Nobody. But… it comes with consequences to ignore foreign governments. You can tolerate those, sure you can. You do that. Nothing stopping you. “Free speech” and all that (which not one country in the entire world has). So now enjoy being on the list of websites that the UK deems not to have adequate child protection controls, or to be uncooperative when it comes to implementing such controls, and which all UK ISPs are legally required to block access to. Same way that Google in China are legally required to block certain searches that are perfectly fine in the US or the UK, and Bing in France has to include X percent of results from the news industry in its news results to French users. And so on.

Enjoy the consequences. Maybe it doesn’t hurt you at all. So be it. Fabulous. Just don’t complain when it hurts you, or you decide that actually it’s easier to come to the table and negotiate with that authority and they’re… less than cooperative with their demands for what they want from you to restore service.

The internet was invented by a Brit, Sir Tim Berners-Lee so it’s universally understood that the internet is British.