Of course, some countries have much higher emissions per capita.
Unfortunately, the third world will catch up to us, which is the side these graphs don’t show.
dgkimpton on
Which just goes to show exactly how much impact “personal responsibility” has… i.e. basically none.
ParticularFix2104 on
Anti-malthusianism my beloved
asdzxcioptghuiop on
Great. Now show 100 years extra and some upcoming countries like India China. And then we’ll reevaluate.
Filias9 on
It is also correlated with deindustrialization and exporting CO2 emissions to Asia.
Suspicious_Lora on
Beautiful cherry picking.
Secure_Radio3324 on
Now put China, the US and Russia in the chart.
Cherry-picking the four examples that favor your hypothesis isn’t a great way to do research.
Pogeos on
More likely by moving all the industry to China, India and other Asian countries
redditor1235711 on
Also by shutting down industry and relocate it to other countries like China. I’d like to see how this plots you posted correlate with industrial output.
I don’t want to sound mean, but I think that could be the main factor and explain the trend better than “innovation”.
Mateking on
That Japan graph must really bother the nuclear bros…
ScureScar on
funny how the graph tries to link japans lowered emissions with nuclear shutdown, when nuclear energy is as clean as energy can get at the moment
Many-Fox9891 on
Nuclear shotdown has nothing to do with emissions, lol. It literally produces 0 emissions.
Patte_Blanche on
I don’t think many people in Europe believe in this neo-malthusian bullshit.
gunasekeran_806 on
When all the polluting industries are outsourced to global south it is possible.
dmthoth on
Well, if it’s based on consumption, then it comes down more to regulations/policies and the consumer’s conscience, rather than the innovation itself.
Astro_Avatar on
delusional. meanwhile, in the same span of years, China has grown immensely because th west sustains its’ economy. they simply moved the dirty work to other countries. the reality is that the NET total world wide has just grown.
Auspectress on
And I keep seeing on reddit things “If you are making babies you are contributing to climate change”. This shows clearly that what matters more is technology not babies. Plus not something this chart shows but I have suspicion that most CO2 emissions are done by wealthiest 0.1% of population and such new born will not belong in it
Somehow it feels wrong for some countries, how can Belgium have 17 tn per capita i.e. double than their neighbors. Also Singapur 30 tn? It is not supposed to be more efficient to live in packed cities?
TheSmokeu on
The biggest reasons why fossil fuels haven’t been phased out by now are the political ones
Caeli_Kvothe on
Okay so we are boiling alive in next 15 years or not?
CanadianMultigun on
I don´t think this article title is an accurate statement for many nations
Canada for example has a very high per capita release of CO2 and is bringing in millions of migrants.
Obviously this shows that innovation and CO2 reduction activities do work but also the CO2 emmissions of Canada would be greatly reduced if it´s demographics hadn´t changed so enormously.
Germany for example has shown how with it´s stable population of 80m in 1990 and 84m in 2025 it achieved a circa 33% reduction in CO2 emmissions.
The first thing you might say in response to my comment so far is “But what about France and the UK, their populations have grown and they´ve still achieved a comparable fall in CO2 emissions”
On the surface I would agree but demographics is also about age, 70-90yr olds likely don´t drive, drink, eat, or consume manufactured or high energy goods as much as 20 – 50yr olds. The UK and France have aged significantly since the 90s. Likewise Japan literally is dying of old age.
Saying that innovation and policy is far more important than demographics is a misleading and innaccurate statement in my opinion based on the information I see here and am aware of from outside of the graph.
(NB: Does this even account for the outsourcing of co2 intensive production to other countries that is caused in part by policy?)
v3ritas1989 on
so… interesting question. How do we calculate this in regard to an integrated energy market? Like e.g. when france shut down more than half her Nuclear power plants during the gas crisis and they had to buy a lot of energy from the other European countries. Which which country do we attribute the emissions needed to produce that extra energy to? Germany or France?
jellobend on
I wonder how these graphs would be if they were created by emission by consumption
Sizeablegrapefruits on
Is this a chart of western Europe’s deindustrialization?
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Of course, some countries have much higher emissions per capita.
Unfortunately, the third world will catch up to us, which is the side these graphs don’t show.
Which just goes to show exactly how much impact “personal responsibility” has… i.e. basically none.
Anti-malthusianism my beloved
Great. Now show 100 years extra and some upcoming countries like India China. And then we’ll reevaluate.
It is also correlated with deindustrialization and exporting CO2 emissions to Asia.
Beautiful cherry picking.
Now put China, the US and Russia in the chart.
Cherry-picking the four examples that favor your hypothesis isn’t a great way to do research.
More likely by moving all the industry to China, India and other Asian countries
Also by shutting down industry and relocate it to other countries like China. I’d like to see how this plots you posted correlate with industrial output.
I don’t want to sound mean, but I think that could be the main factor and explain the trend better than “innovation”.
That Japan graph must really bother the nuclear bros…
funny how the graph tries to link japans lowered emissions with nuclear shutdown, when nuclear energy is as clean as energy can get at the moment
Nuclear shotdown has nothing to do with emissions, lol. It literally produces 0 emissions.
I don’t think many people in Europe believe in this neo-malthusian bullshit.
When all the polluting industries are outsourced to global south it is possible.
Well, if it’s based on consumption, then it comes down more to regulations/policies and the consumer’s conscience, rather than the innovation itself.
delusional. meanwhile, in the same span of years, China has grown immensely because th west sustains its’ economy. they simply moved the dirty work to other countries. the reality is that the NET total world wide has just grown.
And I keep seeing on reddit things “If you are making babies you are contributing to climate change”. This shows clearly that what matters more is technology not babies. Plus not something this chart shows but I have suspicion that most CO2 emissions are done by wealthiest 0.1% of population and such new born will not belong in it
Original source for the entire world here: [https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita](https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/consumption-co2-per-capita)
Somehow it feels wrong for some countries, how can Belgium have 17 tn per capita i.e. double than their neighbors. Also Singapur 30 tn? It is not supposed to be more efficient to live in packed cities?
The biggest reasons why fossil fuels haven’t been phased out by now are the political ones
Okay so we are boiling alive in next 15 years or not?
I don´t think this article title is an accurate statement for many nations
Canada for example has a very high per capita release of CO2 and is bringing in millions of migrants.
You can see [here the total CO2 emmissions of Canada](https://www.statista.com/statistics/209619/canadian-co2-emissions/), they are basically the same in 2025 as in 1998. Now the population is roughly 33% larger now that it is circa 42m people.
Obviously this shows that innovation and CO2 reduction activities do work but also the CO2 emmissions of Canada would be greatly reduced if it´s demographics hadn´t changed so enormously.
Germany for example has shown how with it´s stable population of 80m in 1990 and 84m in 2025 it achieved a circa 33% reduction in CO2 emmissions.
The first thing you might say in response to my comment so far is “But what about France and the UK, their populations have grown and they´ve still achieved a comparable fall in CO2 emissions”
On the surface I would agree but demographics is also about age, 70-90yr olds likely don´t drive, drink, eat, or consume manufactured or high energy goods as much as 20 – 50yr olds. The UK and France have aged significantly since the 90s. Likewise Japan literally is dying of old age.
Saying that innovation and policy is far more important than demographics is a misleading and innaccurate statement in my opinion based on the information I see here and am aware of from outside of the graph.
(NB: Does this even account for the outsourcing of co2 intensive production to other countries that is caused in part by policy?)
so… interesting question. How do we calculate this in regard to an integrated energy market? Like e.g. when france shut down more than half her Nuclear power plants during the gas crisis and they had to buy a lot of energy from the other European countries. Which which country do we attribute the emissions needed to produce that extra energy to? Germany or France?
I wonder how these graphs would be if they were created by emission by consumption
Is this a chart of western Europe’s deindustrialization?