People do not want to store their credit card details online
Is this just pure credit cards? If so lots of people dont have them nor want them..
This is a crazy idea and will be end of me using steam
CyberPunkDongTooLong on
The article seems to imply this requires *specifically* credit cards, i.e. debit cards and cash cards are excluded.
This has to be wrong surely? Debit cards are vastly more common in the UK than credit cards.
RunaMajo on
Yeah, I went this long without a Credit Card. Steam ain’t changing that.
Deliriousious on
“Hey dad, can I use your credit card to buy a game?”
“Sure son”
Wow. So secure.
And by “Mature” do they mean porn games? Or anything mature such as GTA?
I fucking hate this age of verification… and I hope it gets repealed quickly.
BigGarry1978 on
My steam account is like 14 years old. In 4 years it’ll be old enough to apply for one itseld
shugthedug3 on
Age verification without a credit card is entirely possible. Retailers who sell age restricted products use these services all the time, they presumably draw upon credit records, public electoral roll and other – presumably proprietary -databases to work.
dendrocalamidicus on
I am 34 and I’ve never had a credit card. I don’t plan on getting one either.
My steam account is almost 19 years old. How is that not good enough proof that I’m over 18?
InformationNew66 on
Credit cards are a better option in one sense, at least no direct photo or ID photo.
On the other hand, not everyone has credit cards. What about adults with bad credit? Just because they did a mistake in their past and can’t have credit cards they are punished by not having access to mature games? Seems excessive and unfair.
Ryanhussain14 on
I’m starting to believe the theory that religious groups are secretly funding puritan tyrannism because I have never seen society become so anti-NSFW/sex so quickly and so harshly like in the past few years. Who is this protecting?
DigitalRoman486 on
My steam account is old enough to legally drink in the US. Does that count?
DoomSluggy on
Obligatory statement. The government can go f-ck themselves.
DeverickYeet on
People will just pirate games instead. I don’t have a credit card and have no need for one.
xrunawaywolf on
Seems fair enough, there is a lot of smut games on steam. Proper control on ages seems like a good idea. Though hopefully there are alternatives as I have never had a credit card….
DontPokeMe91 on
What the actual fck are the UK government doing?
Jesus christ.
SirSmewp on
So, I get the concern about the back ground movements, I.E. payment networks over reaching.
But, in essence, how is this any different to how things were in the early days? Needing to show ID to buy an 18 rated game over the counter in Game?
Dissidant on
I don’t know how debit cards work across the pond, but my understanding was that in the UK at least, a debit card issued to an over 18/adult has age verify via the bank itself, so it seems daft that they aren’t on the list
recursant on
There is nothing inherently wrong with age restrictions. The two main problems as I see it are, first that there is no way to prove your age that doesn’t expose you to serious privacy and/or security hazards. Giving Steam your CC is probably no worse than giving it to any other company, but every extra place it is stored increases the risk. And if it becomes a general thing that youi have to use your CC as proof of age everywhere, then people will end up giving their card details to some very shady sites.
There are technical solutions, ways that you can prove certain things about yourself without actually identifying yourself. But our clueless government doesn’t even see the problem, so they aren’t thinking about the solution at all.
The second thing is that we need different age limits for different things. At the moment we treat 17 year olds exactly the same as infants, with the same restrictions as a 4 year old. Then on their 18th birthday suddenly they get access to everything.
It is ridiculous that teenagers aren’t even allowed to see discussion of eating disorders, for example. They might have friends or family who are affected, and they need to know more about it.
But that would require them to actually think about the law, rather than just creating something that sounds good in a headline.
spuckthew on
I’m not sure what’s worse or more divisive: forcing users to store a credit card (which inherently has an age restriction), or requiring a selfie/ID. Either way, there’ll be people who don’t want to do either or would be happy with one and not the other.
Personally I already store my credit card details on Steam. Rather that than my bank card since CCs generally have better protections (most of my online purchases are done with a CC).
TheChaoticCrusader on
So I only need a credit card to access this ? I could still just pay with a debit card anyway once a credit card is assigned ?
UnoriginalWebHandle on
Is “Mature Content” anything that currently asks for your date of birth? Because that’s games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty, not just the porn games.
Zerodriven on
My steam account is 19 years old. That’ll be fun.
Yesterday Microsoft did this to me for the Xbox. My associated email address is older than the Xbox.. I had to provide nothing 🤣
SmashedWorm64 on
Sorry… what? I’m 21, but I don’t have a credit card? When they say mature content do they mean any game that is rated 18?
lumbridge6 on
But I’m a 34 year old man who doesn’t have a credit card, surely a debit card is fine?
Luna259 on
I lack a credit card so my business with Steam may have just ended. I didn’t really buy anything from Steam anymore but still
bobblebob100 on
Everyone should have a credit card who can get one. They offer alot of protection when saying booking holiday or flights. Providing you pay it off each month there is zero fee
Woodgar on
I have a credit card, but I use it to back my PayPal account that I then use to make Steam and other online purchases.
One of, if not the, advantage of PP is that the merchant never gets direct access to my bank details and so I’m not exposed to every retailer on the internet. The added protection of PP will be of no value if I have to hand over my credit card details directly.
613663141 on
My Steam Account is over 18 years old. Is that not enough?!?!?!
English_Joe on
Good!
Not a prude but some of the games are straight up VR porn.
Extasio on
Several UK content creators I watch have had their videos banned in the UK due to the “Online Safety Act”
The UK is truly and thoroughly cooked
spudgun81 on
Does this effect games already in your library? im 44 years old and do not want to have to go apply for a credit card just to play stuff I own. Steam with all their money and resources could have found a better way rather than punishing the customers. They took the lazy way.
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People do not want to store their credit card details online
Is this just pure credit cards? If so lots of people dont have them nor want them..
This is a crazy idea and will be end of me using steam
The article seems to imply this requires *specifically* credit cards, i.e. debit cards and cash cards are excluded.
This has to be wrong surely? Debit cards are vastly more common in the UK than credit cards.
Yeah, I went this long without a Credit Card. Steam ain’t changing that.
“Hey dad, can I use your credit card to buy a game?”
“Sure son”
Wow. So secure.
And by “Mature” do they mean porn games? Or anything mature such as GTA?
I fucking hate this age of verification… and I hope it gets repealed quickly.
My steam account is like 14 years old. In 4 years it’ll be old enough to apply for one itseld
Age verification without a credit card is entirely possible. Retailers who sell age restricted products use these services all the time, they presumably draw upon credit records, public electoral roll and other – presumably proprietary -databases to work.
I am 34 and I’ve never had a credit card. I don’t plan on getting one either.
My steam account is almost 19 years old. How is that not good enough proof that I’m over 18?
Credit cards are a better option in one sense, at least no direct photo or ID photo.
On the other hand, not everyone has credit cards. What about adults with bad credit? Just because they did a mistake in their past and can’t have credit cards they are punished by not having access to mature games? Seems excessive and unfair.
I’m starting to believe the theory that religious groups are secretly funding puritan tyrannism because I have never seen society become so anti-NSFW/sex so quickly and so harshly like in the past few years. Who is this protecting?
My steam account is old enough to legally drink in the US. Does that count?
Obligatory statement. The government can go f-ck themselves.
People will just pirate games instead. I don’t have a credit card and have no need for one.
Seems fair enough, there is a lot of smut games on steam. Proper control on ages seems like a good idea. Though hopefully there are alternatives as I have never had a credit card….
What the actual fck are the UK government doing?
Jesus christ.
So, I get the concern about the back ground movements, I.E. payment networks over reaching.
But, in essence, how is this any different to how things were in the early days? Needing to show ID to buy an 18 rated game over the counter in Game?
I don’t know how debit cards work across the pond, but my understanding was that in the UK at least, a debit card issued to an over 18/adult has age verify via the bank itself, so it seems daft that they aren’t on the list
There is nothing inherently wrong with age restrictions. The two main problems as I see it are, first that there is no way to prove your age that doesn’t expose you to serious privacy and/or security hazards. Giving Steam your CC is probably no worse than giving it to any other company, but every extra place it is stored increases the risk. And if it becomes a general thing that youi have to use your CC as proof of age everywhere, then people will end up giving their card details to some very shady sites.
There are technical solutions, ways that you can prove certain things about yourself without actually identifying yourself. But our clueless government doesn’t even see the problem, so they aren’t thinking about the solution at all.
The second thing is that we need different age limits for different things. At the moment we treat 17 year olds exactly the same as infants, with the same restrictions as a 4 year old. Then on their 18th birthday suddenly they get access to everything.
It is ridiculous that teenagers aren’t even allowed to see discussion of eating disorders, for example. They might have friends or family who are affected, and they need to know more about it.
But that would require them to actually think about the law, rather than just creating something that sounds good in a headline.
I’m not sure what’s worse or more divisive: forcing users to store a credit card (which inherently has an age restriction), or requiring a selfie/ID. Either way, there’ll be people who don’t want to do either or would be happy with one and not the other.
Personally I already store my credit card details on Steam. Rather that than my bank card since CCs generally have better protections (most of my online purchases are done with a CC).
So I only need a credit card to access this ? I could still just pay with a debit card anyway once a credit card is assigned ?
Is “Mature Content” anything that currently asks for your date of birth? Because that’s games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty, not just the porn games.
My steam account is 19 years old. That’ll be fun.
Yesterday Microsoft did this to me for the Xbox. My associated email address is older than the Xbox.. I had to provide nothing 🤣
Sorry… what? I’m 21, but I don’t have a credit card? When they say mature content do they mean any game that is rated 18?
But I’m a 34 year old man who doesn’t have a credit card, surely a debit card is fine?
I lack a credit card so my business with Steam may have just ended. I didn’t really buy anything from Steam anymore but still
Everyone should have a credit card who can get one. They offer alot of protection when saying booking holiday or flights. Providing you pay it off each month there is zero fee
I have a credit card, but I use it to back my PayPal account that I then use to make Steam and other online purchases.
One of, if not the, advantage of PP is that the merchant never gets direct access to my bank details and so I’m not exposed to every retailer on the internet. The added protection of PP will be of no value if I have to hand over my credit card details directly.
My Steam Account is over 18 years old. Is that not enough?!?!?!
Good!
Not a prude but some of the games are straight up VR porn.
Several UK content creators I watch have had their videos banned in the UK due to the “Online Safety Act”
The UK is truly and thoroughly cooked
Does this effect games already in your library? im 44 years old and do not want to have to go apply for a credit card just to play stuff I own. Steam with all their money and resources could have found a better way rather than punishing the customers. They took the lazy way.