Creatives need to get how AI works, when used well it’s a shortcut not a finished product. So Elton John sits down at his piano and asks his AI to give him a few “Elton John style songs” finds one that isn’t half bad and then does his own personal magic on it. AI can’t compete with him but it is quick and easy inspiration, I don’t believe every creative work must be some Sysiphian nightmare in its generation to be of value.
Hive-Mind4085 on
Thing is even if we regulate AI into the ground all that will happen is China, US and other governments will just plow on with it leaving us behind in areas. Then the regulated countries users will just migrate to the over seas AI models.
Even then I can just generate images, video and audio on my PC locally due to open source models. Good luck regulating that. The horse has already bolted.
Kind_Stranger_weeb on
The genie isnt going back into the bottle. Adapt or die innit
TheL0wKing on
It’s frustrating that this issue is always framed this way, as if the Creative sector is some archaic industry being overtaken by new and evolving techniques.
The Creative sector is in ‘existential crisis’ from greedy corporation’s stealing artists work to use as part of their commercial project. Those corporation’s use the excuse that it is just AI learning in order to justify why they don’t have to pay for their use of that work, and the government let’s them get away with it because they are more concerned about the money they might get from those silicon valley corporations.
The problem is not AI, which could be a gain for the creative industry and function just as well if artists were paid, it’s the same greedy corporation’s and complicit government.
louwyatt on
Every industry gets replaced in the end, it is just the cycle of life. History has taught us that blindly trying to keep industries alive just because someone wants to keep their job is a bad idea.
For those downvoting. How does it benefit society to pay you to do a job that AI could do? All it does is make it more expensive and take up a person time that could be doing something more useful
thehighyellowmoon on
They said the same when computers came along, like when they said drum machines would remove the need for human drummers. It’s just another tool to create with. We’ll always value the human element to creativity
ChocolateLoud6749 on
AI was meant to take the shit jobs we didn’t want to do but instead it’s taking art.
People will get tired of it, they already are.
Nima-night on
This is Where all our water is going. It takes 50O ml on average of our drinking water for AI to answer a question or do a task for you.
Give the government 2 years and we will be a barren desert fighting AI for a drink of water
That’s if we are allowed it and not drinking farges fracking fluid
Due_Rice919 on
I don’t see how this is the government’s fault, if I’m honest. Any possible legislation they could pass would be putting a plaster over a crack in the dam. AI is here and it is global. Its algorithm is a black box. It is feeding on everything, all over the world.
It’s up to the creative sector to adapt here.
RaiKyoto94 on
The computer industry is 15-20x that of the music industry. Money talks
GrumbleSloth on
I wonder if all professional athletes and sports players (except maybe those currently at the very top of their fields) were being replaced by cheaper robot replicas, whether some commenters would feel any differently.
El_Wij on
Creative sector?!
Every sector apart from the government seems to be in crisis.
Funny that eh?
Teedeous on
I think it’s difficult as AI is a growing and threatening industry, but concerns surrounding it are emerging that the bubble will burst as wayyy too much money has been put into it that people think can do way more than it actually can. You’re seeing companies now doing heavy layoffs “for cost saving” I expect is to put in these systems, but I think it’ll bite them in the ass because their systems are only as good as how much they’ve programmed it, and humans, especially educated creatives, can do many more things physically it can’t.
Art creation wise it is used, since Treyarch was using it in a recent Black Ops title for art for menus around a Christmas event, but people did call it out as it looked terrible and spat out sloppy mistakes. But i understand why people have a terror for something that executives will sadly look at with intrigue even if it may underperform, but creative sectors have had scares like this countless times. A mate of mine who studied art said the same thing happened with digital art tools and software. Some thought it was the end of art and the creative. I feel AI can be a good tool not to make art as that’s only got soul when a creative does it, but for mock up in design stages for instance, inspiration, or just plain market analysis data wise it feels it could be groundbreaking, and a boon.
pajamakitten on
A lot of companies are already soulless when it comes to design, so using AI for that just means cutting jobs. It still hurts the sector as independent artists will lose out to that soulless work when it is pushed hard onto the public. Art and music is about much more the economy and using AI for both overlooks that there is more to life than money.
zeelbeno on
Another thing the reform papers are try to blame labour on.
It’s crazy how pro-reform all the national media outlets are.
Luna259 on
The creative sector includes film, doesn’t it? Well, certainly feeling the effects of AI here.
Top_Vacation_6712 on
if youre complaining that AI isnt helping you be a better artist you werent as creative as you thought to begin with
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Creatives need to get how AI works, when used well it’s a shortcut not a finished product. So Elton John sits down at his piano and asks his AI to give him a few “Elton John style songs” finds one that isn’t half bad and then does his own personal magic on it. AI can’t compete with him but it is quick and easy inspiration, I don’t believe every creative work must be some Sysiphian nightmare in its generation to be of value.
Thing is even if we regulate AI into the ground all that will happen is China, US and other governments will just plow on with it leaving us behind in areas. Then the regulated countries users will just migrate to the over seas AI models.
Even then I can just generate images, video and audio on my PC locally due to open source models. Good luck regulating that. The horse has already bolted.
The genie isnt going back into the bottle. Adapt or die innit
It’s frustrating that this issue is always framed this way, as if the Creative sector is some archaic industry being overtaken by new and evolving techniques.
The Creative sector is in ‘existential crisis’ from greedy corporation’s stealing artists work to use as part of their commercial project. Those corporation’s use the excuse that it is just AI learning in order to justify why they don’t have to pay for their use of that work, and the government let’s them get away with it because they are more concerned about the money they might get from those silicon valley corporations.
The problem is not AI, which could be a gain for the creative industry and function just as well if artists were paid, it’s the same greedy corporation’s and complicit government.
Every industry gets replaced in the end, it is just the cycle of life. History has taught us that blindly trying to keep industries alive just because someone wants to keep their job is a bad idea.
For those downvoting. How does it benefit society to pay you to do a job that AI could do? All it does is make it more expensive and take up a person time that could be doing something more useful
They said the same when computers came along, like when they said drum machines would remove the need for human drummers. It’s just another tool to create with. We’ll always value the human element to creativity
AI was meant to take the shit jobs we didn’t want to do but instead it’s taking art.
People will get tired of it, they already are.
This is Where all our water is going. It takes 50O ml on average of our drinking water for AI to answer a question or do a task for you.
Give the government 2 years and we will be a barren desert fighting AI for a drink of water
That’s if we are allowed it and not drinking farges fracking fluid
I don’t see how this is the government’s fault, if I’m honest. Any possible legislation they could pass would be putting a plaster over a crack in the dam. AI is here and it is global. Its algorithm is a black box. It is feeding on everything, all over the world.
It’s up to the creative sector to adapt here.
The computer industry is 15-20x that of the music industry. Money talks
I wonder if all professional athletes and sports players (except maybe those currently at the very top of their fields) were being replaced by cheaper robot replicas, whether some commenters would feel any differently.
Creative sector?!
Every sector apart from the government seems to be in crisis.
Funny that eh?
I think it’s difficult as AI is a growing and threatening industry, but concerns surrounding it are emerging that the bubble will burst as wayyy too much money has been put into it that people think can do way more than it actually can. You’re seeing companies now doing heavy layoffs “for cost saving” I expect is to put in these systems, but I think it’ll bite them in the ass because their systems are only as good as how much they’ve programmed it, and humans, especially educated creatives, can do many more things physically it can’t.
Art creation wise it is used, since Treyarch was using it in a recent Black Ops title for art for menus around a Christmas event, but people did call it out as it looked terrible and spat out sloppy mistakes. But i understand why people have a terror for something that executives will sadly look at with intrigue even if it may underperform, but creative sectors have had scares like this countless times. A mate of mine who studied art said the same thing happened with digital art tools and software. Some thought it was the end of art and the creative. I feel AI can be a good tool not to make art as that’s only got soul when a creative does it, but for mock up in design stages for instance, inspiration, or just plain market analysis data wise it feels it could be groundbreaking, and a boon.
A lot of companies are already soulless when it comes to design, so using AI for that just means cutting jobs. It still hurts the sector as independent artists will lose out to that soulless work when it is pushed hard onto the public. Art and music is about much more the economy and using AI for both overlooks that there is more to life than money.
Another thing the reform papers are try to blame labour on.
It’s crazy how pro-reform all the national media outlets are.
The creative sector includes film, doesn’t it? Well, certainly feeling the effects of AI here.
if youre complaining that AI isnt helping you be a better artist you werent as creative as you thought to begin with