Train Drivers will strike constantly, no matter what, forever. Their union has said as much (‘Our job will always be be getting a better deal for train drivers, no matter what’).
If we give them literally everything they want, which we’ve tried many times, ticket prices will go up, they’ll wait 10 months then start striking for more.
So giving them what they want is simply not a workable solution to stop the strikes – THIS MUCH IS PROVEN. The actual only solution, logically, is to hunker down, accept it and just live life with _permanent, forever strikes_. As least that will keep the ticket prices lower than they could be, as we’re DEFINITELY 100% going to get forever strikes either way.
thewebspinner on
Honestly as much as I hate the disruptions the unions are doing what they’re there to do.
Remember that every time a strike happens it’s because the operator allows it to happen.
The Union asks for better terms for the workers, the company says no, the union asks if they’re willing to discuss terms, the company says no, the union says “we’re gonna go on strike unless you sit down and discuss this with us properly” the company says no. And then the strike happens, your trains get delayed and the company blames it on the union and the workers and accepts the new terms anyway.
The entire purpose of this charade is to make people hate the unions. To make them think that every time your ticket price goes up it’s because of the people working for them and not the top brass who are pocketing millions every year in profits.
Next_Replacement_566 on
Hot take: if the government want less strikes, and the unions strike cos of cost of living and wages, why not instead encourage LOWERING COST OF LIVING? Cheaper food, utilities, etc. Cos raising wages raises inflation.
TurbulentBullfrog829 on
There’s a lot of assumptions in that comment. Do companies never meet unions and say their demands are unaffordable, but here’s our best offer? And then who’s fault is it then when the Unions go on strike?
boingwater on
A Brexit backing union accused of misleading people? Well colour me surprised.
Late_Turn on
It’s worth noting here that this is a very small company, and the mandate for sustained strike action has come solely from the drivers employed by this company. There are very few secrets on the railway at the best of times – everyone knows everyone else’s business – so, in this case, I’d be amazed if ballot after ballot had returned a mandate based on misinformation.
shaversonly230v115v on
So one random anonymous “train driver” claims that the union are misleading people about the driver in question’s safety record and the BBC think it’s worth running an entire news story?
neeow_neeow on
Let’s be real: train drivers are massively overpaid and they’re in that position purely because of a taxpayer funded monopoly. Their constant demands for more money are a total piss take and I’d not she’d a single tear if they were all automated into unemployment tomorrow.
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Train Drivers will strike constantly, no matter what, forever. Their union has said as much (‘Our job will always be be getting a better deal for train drivers, no matter what’).
If we give them literally everything they want, which we’ve tried many times, ticket prices will go up, they’ll wait 10 months then start striking for more.
So giving them what they want is simply not a workable solution to stop the strikes – THIS MUCH IS PROVEN. The actual only solution, logically, is to hunker down, accept it and just live life with _permanent, forever strikes_. As least that will keep the ticket prices lower than they could be, as we’re DEFINITELY 100% going to get forever strikes either way.
Honestly as much as I hate the disruptions the unions are doing what they’re there to do.
Remember that every time a strike happens it’s because the operator allows it to happen.
The Union asks for better terms for the workers, the company says no, the union asks if they’re willing to discuss terms, the company says no, the union says “we’re gonna go on strike unless you sit down and discuss this with us properly” the company says no. And then the strike happens, your trains get delayed and the company blames it on the union and the workers and accepts the new terms anyway.
The entire purpose of this charade is to make people hate the unions. To make them think that every time your ticket price goes up it’s because of the people working for them and not the top brass who are pocketing millions every year in profits.
Hot take: if the government want less strikes, and the unions strike cos of cost of living and wages, why not instead encourage LOWERING COST OF LIVING? Cheaper food, utilities, etc. Cos raising wages raises inflation.
There’s a lot of assumptions in that comment. Do companies never meet unions and say their demands are unaffordable, but here’s our best offer? And then who’s fault is it then when the Unions go on strike?
A Brexit backing union accused of misleading people? Well colour me surprised.
It’s worth noting here that this is a very small company, and the mandate for sustained strike action has come solely from the drivers employed by this company. There are very few secrets on the railway at the best of times – everyone knows everyone else’s business – so, in this case, I’d be amazed if ballot after ballot had returned a mandate based on misinformation.
So one random anonymous “train driver” claims that the union are misleading people about the driver in question’s safety record and the BBC think it’s worth running an entire news story?
Let’s be real: train drivers are massively overpaid and they’re in that position purely because of a taxpayer funded monopoly. Their constant demands for more money are a total piss take and I’d not she’d a single tear if they were all automated into unemployment tomorrow.