My understanding is some of these free hours are essentially a con. No nursery will accept them unless you also buy a ton of other stuff and more hours. You can’t just work part time and use only the free hours for example.
Until nurseries are forced to accept kids from parents who only want to use the free quota, it’s still going to be insanely expensive for parents. There also needs to be regulation on all the endless bullshit top-up charges they tack on.
You should be perfectly able to send your kid in with nappies and home made food and tell them to fuck off with their insanely expensive food and supplies costs.
Dissidant on
Demand can’t be that big a shock can it? They are being closed left right and center due to lack of funding
The main one in my area was rated good, had waiting lists well over a year and still closed
Place is just sitting empty presumably till some private firm rocks up and takes it over as it was purpose built a decade or so ago as part of a regeneration scheme
thelastcorinthian on
When I was growing up, nursery provision was performed by the local authority (council) and was free at the point of use.
More efficient and paid for from taxes with qualified, caring, properly paid staff.
Another great Thatcher legacy!
kahnindustries on
Unfortunately the nursery has a fixed number of places per staff member due to regulations (which may or may not be a good idea)
So they book in that number of kids
If some of those kids only book in the 3 free hours then the nursery would need to book in 4 kids to that slot and reliably have parents dorp off and pick up one after the other.
That wouldnt fit or work and the nursery will be getting paid more for the remaining 9 hours than they do for the 3
and because there is an abundance of demand the nursery can fill its books with all kids booking the 12 hours (3 free + 9) maximising the take from the legally limited slot count
Oh and here is the best bit, the market has leveled off at £x per month child care (call it £1600) suddenly that drops to £1200 + 3 free hours
The demand just increased on the service as more families can now afford childcare. Do you know what happens? that £1200 creeps back up to £1600 over the next couple of years as the market levels off again. The only way to stop this is having fully covered childcare and deduct it from tax. Then the government can set what they pay for the childcare.
Thankfully my kids have gone past that crippling stage, even in Wales where the kids start in school at 3 it was costing me £600pm per child (2011-2015 prices)
danystormborne on
Tongue in cheek obviously, but the best piece of financial advice around having kids is to live close to grandparents. We saved an absolute fortune in childcare fees because our parents looked after them, and I would do the same for my own kids should they need it.
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My understanding is some of these free hours are essentially a con. No nursery will accept them unless you also buy a ton of other stuff and more hours. You can’t just work part time and use only the free hours for example.
Until nurseries are forced to accept kids from parents who only want to use the free quota, it’s still going to be insanely expensive for parents. There also needs to be regulation on all the endless bullshit top-up charges they tack on.
You should be perfectly able to send your kid in with nappies and home made food and tell them to fuck off with their insanely expensive food and supplies costs.
Demand can’t be that big a shock can it? They are being closed left right and center due to lack of funding
The main one in my area was rated good, had waiting lists well over a year and still closed
Place is just sitting empty presumably till some private firm rocks up and takes it over as it was purpose built a decade or so ago as part of a regeneration scheme
When I was growing up, nursery provision was performed by the local authority (council) and was free at the point of use.
More efficient and paid for from taxes with qualified, caring, properly paid staff.
Another great Thatcher legacy!
Unfortunately the nursery has a fixed number of places per staff member due to regulations (which may or may not be a good idea)
So they book in that number of kids
If some of those kids only book in the 3 free hours then the nursery would need to book in 4 kids to that slot and reliably have parents dorp off and pick up one after the other.
That wouldnt fit or work and the nursery will be getting paid more for the remaining 9 hours than they do for the 3
and because there is an abundance of demand the nursery can fill its books with all kids booking the 12 hours (3 free + 9) maximising the take from the legally limited slot count
Oh and here is the best bit, the market has leveled off at £x per month child care (call it £1600) suddenly that drops to £1200 + 3 free hours
The demand just increased on the service as more families can now afford childcare. Do you know what happens? that £1200 creeps back up to £1600 over the next couple of years as the market levels off again. The only way to stop this is having fully covered childcare and deduct it from tax. Then the government can set what they pay for the childcare.
Thankfully my kids have gone past that crippling stage, even in Wales where the kids start in school at 3 it was costing me £600pm per child (2011-2015 prices)
Tongue in cheek obviously, but the best piece of financial advice around having kids is to live close to grandparents. We saved an absolute fortune in childcare fees because our parents looked after them, and I would do the same for my own kids should they need it.