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He’s right to try it but it totally depends whether his own MPs will let him do anything sensible on this.
[“Have we tried killing all the poor?”](https://youtu.be/s_4J4uor3JE)
So far he’s managed to get all the flack and none of the economic headroom of cutting welfare.
Astonished at how bad this government has been at politics.
Either he uses his majority to push through the needed reforms to curb our ridiculous levels of borrowing or the markets will force him to.
Short of continuing the pyramid scheme of endless immigration which is not sustainable practically or electorally where is our growth coming from realistically? No one taxes their way to growth that’s for sure.
He won’t be able to get it through he physically cannot his party won’t vote for it. And if he relies on the other parties then there will be a leadership challenge.
If this doesn’t go through then Starmer is done, the numbers are clear, the current cost of welfare and the rate of expansion is completely unsustainable.
Yes the second attempt to make the poor sick and disabled foot the bill after it got rejected and the whole of England said tax the millionaires and the government said no were going to wait and try again and pass it another way we should have to make the wealthy pay there share that’s the responsibility of the workers who generate all there wealth.
I just wish he would stop going back and forth, dude can’t commit to anything, that’s part of the problem
How about we make the rich pay their fair share of tax? Could start with Angela Rayner
The longer he waits to make necessary cuts the more politically impossible it’s going to become. It’s so much harder to reduce spending than to not spend it in the first place, just look at the backlash when the Covid £20 uplift ended.
It’s this or the chaos of a Reform Government which I now think is unavoidable anyway. Take your pick as to what we are going to get. I’m looking forward to the absolute WMD that is going to be a Richard Tice budget in 2029. Jihadist terrorist cells in this country are going to be wetting themselves with a laughter when they see the damage that we are doing to ourselves. Of course nothing is going to change and of course generation Boomer won’t have to wear the consequences – so bring on the apocalypse. Bring on Reform.
I just wish “welfare reform” wasn’t a dogwhistle for “let some poor people starve”
Like it could damn well do with reform, the amount of inefficiencies caused by the goverment throwing billions at wealth holders using the poor as “middlemen” is a joke.
God forbid we actually talk about why so many people are having mental health issues which has caused a big uptick in PIP and LCWRA… No because that would make the Government look like the cruel twisted fuckers that they are, much easier just to label anybody with a disability that stops them working as a lazy cheat…
“Stop the duke, go for gold”
Our finances are In such an abysmal state and the conservatives completely mismanaged them, we cannot bankroll the pensioners who rode the economy for 70 years at the expense of everybody else in society and the countries future.
We seriously need the government to grow some balls.
Be nice if he did that with the triple lock to, realistically he’s not getting another term may aswell attempt to fix things with unpopular decisions now.
As painful as it might be, failing to get a grip on government expenditure has a far worse impact on every single citizen. I hope they can make the needed changes, and get the economy unstuck and prosperous again.
We’ve tried nothing, we’re all out of ideas, so back to punching down on the poor and disabled.
I don’t think that the Government or really anyone understands the scale of what needs to happen.
We are way beyond some sort of 5% cut here or there making any difference – we are decades into debt and also entrenched positions.
What really needs to happen is a kind of bottom up rework – start from 0 spending and decide what we absolutely need, then base tax policy on that.
It is insane that half of us, even the “better off” ones are sitting in the supermarket price comparing, looking at the yellow labels, shopping for the best car insurance etc and the Government is just taking 40, 50, 60% marginal tax and giving it away on nonsense.
We’re not going to get anywhere without actual economic reform. The UK doesn’t actually own anything anymore. We don’t have any revenue except taxes. Our infrastructure benefits private companies that siphon taxpayer money out of the system.
The only way we can maintain this status quo is either cutting funding to government services or increasing taxes, neither of which are attractive options.
How is it that France (through EDF) can own significant chunks of our energy sector, Canada and China our water, Spain and Qatar our airports, and Dubai our ports, and yet we own _nothing_? We have no income stream other than taxes, and the things we do own (embassies and military bases) are _liabilities_.
Where is the sovereignty Brexit promised? We’re not just a vassal state, but a strip mine for the rest of the world.
I bet its about PIP and the amount of disabled people.
Heres the thing: companies do not want to hire a disabled person, even if they are neurodivergent where the only way to tell is when they tell you.
Needs to be done before the IMF have to bail us out.
An easy win would be to stop migrants being able to claim benefits. Ridiculous that 48% of social housing in London is occupied by first generation migrants.
Next step is to stop importing millions of minimum wage workers
> The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said the average low-earner who came to Britain aged 25 cost the Government more overall than they paid in from the moment they arrived.
> The cumulative bill rose to an estimated £151,000 by the time they could claim the state pension at 66, the watchdog said
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/09/12/low-skilled-migrants-cost-taxpayers-150000-each/
They won’t win power next election no matter what they do at this point so they might as well go all in.
Just tax the rich already! Every public service is on it’s knees. we’ve cut since the coalition government and it does not work so why would cutting more make any improvement what so ever!?
Welfare is out of hand. Over £300 billion. No ways is this sustainable.
If it’s the economy, the poorest have to suffer. If it’s a war, the poorest have to die. Maybe we punch up for a while.