Gli utenti di energia potrebbero risparmiare £ 5 miliardi all’anno “se gli impianti di gas vengono rimossi dal mercato
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/sep/04/electricity-users-save-5bn-a-year-gas-fired-stations-removed-from-market
di Tammer_Stern
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lol, yes, so long as you’re prepared to wear regular blackouts when there isn’t enough electricity being generated.
ETA: I realise this is removing the generators from the market, not from supplying electricity. Still not convinced it won’t have the same result; the reason gas keeps electricity prices expensive is because gas is expensive and it’s needed 98% of the time (according to the article) to meet demand. So removing it from the market will have not impact on generators who burn gas – their costs will remain the same. It will, however, reduce the profitability (and therefore viability) of renewable projects. I’m not sure this is the impact Greenpeace (who commissioned the report) are looking for. Unless, of course, the regulated price for gas generators is below what it actually costs them, in which case all the gas generators will shut up shop immediately.
No economist would ever recommend splitting the market like that.
Instead, you just want to remove waiting lists to connect other kinds of power generation, and the gas will be pushed out of the market and therefore no longer used to determine pricing.
Regional (nodal) pricing is a good way to do this, together with a max 2 week approval time for new connections. Shame politics killed that.
Makes sense.
The renewable producers should be the ones paying for gas electricity during the periods they can’t fulfil their power delivery obligations.
“Could” we all know that means won’t
Remember a while back when a few groups wanted to pressure the government and corpos by doing a national refuse to pay but then backed out.
They know you are all going to pay it anyway so no reason to remove gas plants.
One of the reasons we invested to go off grid.
People are shockingly negative about the prospect of removing gas from the grid, but the UK is actually well ahead of schedule. I don’t think people realise just how much things are accelerating.
The UK has 32GW of installed gas capacity on the grid, while 16.1GW of renewable capacity was given permission to start building in just the *second quarter of this year* alone.
The UK is also well ahead in energy storage, with the government estimating we’d need 23-27GW of energy storage to reach 95% renewables. From just the year to June 30GW of energy storage has been submitted.
The idea by having the gas in its own special room the other players in the market are just going to ignore the price signals they send is ludicrous. What would happen is the market becomes less efficient as non gas sellers have to now speculate on what the gas would clear at and no real benefit passes to the consumer but there’s added cost and red tape of operating simultaneously in two markets.
Any savings wouldn’t be passed to consumers anyway only the shareholders and CEO’s
The average marginal gas price was £77/MWh (according to Google AI) last year.
What will happen when Hinkley C comes online with its guaranteed price of over £130/MWh at todays prices?
Having two separate markets would quickly win people over to switch to renewable home heating. Why would people stick to gas when it’s double the price?