I know a couple of people who are on welfare (for good reason, mind you) but are voting for Reform. They are literally going to vote for someone who hates them and is going to make their lives even more miserable. I don’t get it.
Terrible_Ghost on
Honestly as a disabled person I am definitely worried about the next few years.
Legitimate_Earth4371 on
Not a great idea when all his voters are the benefit brigade…
Deltaforce1-17 on
Cut what welfare? 2.8 million in this country already use food banks.
The-Peel on
Nothing screams patriotism and loving your country like cutting benefits to the poorest Brits and wanting to give tax breaks to rich foreigners.
People in this country are getting conned the same way Americans were conned by Trump in 2016.
callsignhotdog on
The “look after our own” schtick was always bullshit but I thought they’d keep that to themselves until they were in power.
Pale_Slide_3463 on
Basically echoing what GB “news” said about just shooting disabled people.
People don’t realise how easy it is to suddenly become sick.
GianfrancoZoey on
It’s rarely really brought up because of course it isn’t, but Reform’s economic ideas are the exact kind of ‘libertarian’ insanity that Truss tried to implement
I put libertarian in quotes because while they pretend to be libertarian they’re anything but. They want companies and businesses to be able to do anything they like while people suffer, and (much like Labour) they would also heavily involve Palantir in the operation of the government.
Important_Ruin on
Triple Lock? Or would that upset your voter base too much, as that’s costing a fortune and unsustainable.
I guess it will be things like UC etc. Cause everyone claims that is a ‘scrounger’ and benefits cheat.
tipytopmain on
Interesting dialogue. I’m pretty sure a big chunk of Reforms growing base are those hovering around the poverty line who would suffer first from a curtailed welfare budget. But I imagine Farage will quickly pivot this point into “The migrants won’t get a penny so we can do more with less etc”.
Affectionate_Role849 on
The welfare bill does need to be cut though, even Starmer attempted it.
We can’t afford it, no disabled person should be forced into work if they can’t, but it shouldn’t become a lifestyle choice. We have a very squeezed and narrow tax base as is and a ballooning welfare bill.
I assume Reform wouldn’t implement it fairly, but the principle is correct.
OkMap3209 on
>He says that that his mass deportation plans would cost £10 billion, but save £7 billion.
What a joke. Only he can create plans that overall cost money but get support for it.
UppaPeelersYeoow on
And where exactly do they think the saved money is gonna goto… Potholes, nhs, schools?
It’s going to the ultra rich you silly mugs
Fast-Drummer5757 on
They’ll sell off the NHS, destroy welfare and pocket the lot. The country will be destroyed.
Lando7373 on
As long as a good chunk of that is pensions then I don’t see a problem.
zezblit on
There’s nothing left to cut without people dying or offing themselves
birdinthebush74 on
Bet they won’t touch pensioners ( one of the largest voting demographics)
greetp on
The leopards will all soon feast well on all the faces.
IlluminatedCookie on
Didn’t Labour try this with pip? Whatever. He doesn’t know what he’s saying anyway.
CockchopsMcGraw on
Start with the triple lock and means test the state pension
PickingANameTookAges on
Of course he would…
Nigel F**ktards only questions when it comes to policy making;
1) “Will it enrich me personally?”
2) “Will it create difficulty for the majority of British citizens?”
3) “Will it weaken the United Kingdom?”
If the answer to one is No, it won’t be mentioned. This answer probably carries 52% of the weighting with the other two making up the other 48%.
1 has to be a Yes to even consider 2 and 3, and there must be a minimum of two Yes answers before proposing it as policy.
I fear F**ktard is more dangerous to this country than BoJo the Clown and Liz Lettuce, combined 🤦
Guardian1959 on
Has there been any research done of whether proportional representation would cool Reform
BobBobBobBobBobDave on
A lot of people who are net gainers from the benefits system (lower earners, retirees on state pension, people with child benefits and free nursery hours) will hear this and think “well, he doesn’t mean me”.
I promise you he does.
HenshinDictionary on
Farage at this point could promise to personally come round and punch every one of his voters in the face and he would still somehow manage to gain supporters.
Chosty55 on
It’s just a way of getting the ill informed to hate those who are worse off than them, rather than those who are exploiting them.
Throw in an example of someone on benefits with 20 kids all scrounging £1k a month without lifting a finger, and you soon forget about the 1%er who lobbies to keep our gas prices high so they can sail around on their yacht… also never lifting a finger
Jonnysupafly on
Got to fund those Millionaire tax breaks somewhere
stumperr on
He just keeps giving me more reasons to vote for him
goonercaIIum on
This is what the morons in labour that shot down the last amendment for minor changes to our welfare bill wanted – don’t say we didn’t tell you so.
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I know a couple of people who are on welfare (for good reason, mind you) but are voting for Reform. They are literally going to vote for someone who hates them and is going to make their lives even more miserable. I don’t get it.
Honestly as a disabled person I am definitely worried about the next few years.
Not a great idea when all his voters are the benefit brigade…
Cut what welfare? 2.8 million in this country already use food banks.
Nothing screams patriotism and loving your country like cutting benefits to the poorest Brits and wanting to give tax breaks to rich foreigners.
People in this country are getting conned the same way Americans were conned by Trump in 2016.
The “look after our own” schtick was always bullshit but I thought they’d keep that to themselves until they were in power.
Basically echoing what GB “news” said about just shooting disabled people.
People don’t realise how easy it is to suddenly become sick.
It’s rarely really brought up because of course it isn’t, but Reform’s economic ideas are the exact kind of ‘libertarian’ insanity that Truss tried to implement
I put libertarian in quotes because while they pretend to be libertarian they’re anything but. They want companies and businesses to be able to do anything they like while people suffer, and (much like Labour) they would also heavily involve Palantir in the operation of the government.
Triple Lock? Or would that upset your voter base too much, as that’s costing a fortune and unsustainable.
I guess it will be things like UC etc. Cause everyone claims that is a ‘scrounger’ and benefits cheat.
Interesting dialogue. I’m pretty sure a big chunk of Reforms growing base are those hovering around the poverty line who would suffer first from a curtailed welfare budget. But I imagine Farage will quickly pivot this point into “The migrants won’t get a penny so we can do more with less etc”.
The welfare bill does need to be cut though, even Starmer attempted it.
We can’t afford it, no disabled person should be forced into work if they can’t, but it shouldn’t become a lifestyle choice. We have a very squeezed and narrow tax base as is and a ballooning welfare bill.
I assume Reform wouldn’t implement it fairly, but the principle is correct.
>He says that that his mass deportation plans would cost £10 billion, but save £7 billion.
What a joke. Only he can create plans that overall cost money but get support for it.
And where exactly do they think the saved money is gonna goto… Potholes, nhs, schools?
It’s going to the ultra rich you silly mugs
They’ll sell off the NHS, destroy welfare and pocket the lot. The country will be destroyed.
As long as a good chunk of that is pensions then I don’t see a problem.
There’s nothing left to cut without people dying or offing themselves
Bet they won’t touch pensioners ( one of the largest voting demographics)
The leopards will all soon feast well on all the faces.
Didn’t Labour try this with pip? Whatever. He doesn’t know what he’s saying anyway.
Start with the triple lock and means test the state pension
Of course he would…
Nigel F**ktards only questions when it comes to policy making;
1) “Will it enrich me personally?”
2) “Will it create difficulty for the majority of British citizens?”
3) “Will it weaken the United Kingdom?”
If the answer to one is No, it won’t be mentioned. This answer probably carries 52% of the weighting with the other two making up the other 48%.
1 has to be a Yes to even consider 2 and 3, and there must be a minimum of two Yes answers before proposing it as policy.
I fear F**ktard is more dangerous to this country than BoJo the Clown and Liz Lettuce, combined 🤦
Has there been any research done of whether proportional representation would cool Reform
A lot of people who are net gainers from the benefits system (lower earners, retirees on state pension, people with child benefits and free nursery hours) will hear this and think “well, he doesn’t mean me”.
I promise you he does.
Farage at this point could promise to personally come round and punch every one of his voters in the face and he would still somehow manage to gain supporters.
It’s just a way of getting the ill informed to hate those who are worse off than them, rather than those who are exploiting them.
Throw in an example of someone on benefits with 20 kids all scrounging £1k a month without lifting a finger, and you soon forget about the 1%er who lobbies to keep our gas prices high so they can sail around on their yacht… also never lifting a finger
Got to fund those Millionaire tax breaks somewhere
He just keeps giving me more reasons to vote for him
This is what the morons in labour that shot down the last amendment for minor changes to our welfare bill wanted – don’t say we didn’t tell you so.