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    1. Ok_Emu1644 on

      I like her but she’s guilty and has to face the consequences, I mean we heard her call for the resignations of tories plenty of times for similar things.

      It’s also just such a bad look as housing minister.

    2. intelligentprince on

      The hypocrisy (as noted she called for Tories to resign from office for similar reasons) and what the hell was she thinking?

    3. ReindeerFalse861 on

      They small are same and people should either join the politics and make the difference or don’t rely on politicians as they look after their own interests nothing more..

    4. i7omahawki on

      To be fair, this situation was entirely avoidable and parties should be doing a better job of making sure their MPs are above board with this sort of thing.

    5. Noble_Titus on

      I’m so disappointed in her for this but the difference in approach the media has taken compared to criticisms of the past leadership is absolutely grim.

    6. She was caught in the age-old trap of working class politicians thinking they can act like the ruling class. Tax avoidance vs tax evasion is just a matter of ticking the right boxes, and understanding that some boxes need to be ticked by other people, so those people better like you.

      I’m sure the Telegraph will now write 40+ articles about Nigel Farage gifting 900k to his girlfriend so she could buy a house and let him live in it.

    7. Turbulent_Art745 on

      Like everything, the small detail is where the nuance is.

      That’s what makes this different in my view, the independent ethics advisor made it clear the situation was complex and that she acted in good faith.

      Still has to resign but it’s just a shame 99% of people won’t actually read the letter.

      Glad we at least have a govt that respects standards.

    8. Patient-Twist4120 on

      Not so mouthy now is she! I am sure she will be back to grace our government again when the dust settles. In the meantime I am sure the media is piling more offers of cash to tell her side of the story.

    9. The nonsense Labour and their media allies kept coming out with about these being ‘smears against a working class woman’ was insulting

      Working class people are hardworking and don’t like cheats, and there’s a lot of people who Labour might not consider ‘working class’, who don’t have Rayner’s 3 figure salary or property portfolio, but would never be allowed to get away with any sort of tax fuckery.

      Labour’s inherent belief is that they’re the ‘good guys’ of politics, so when stuff like this or the gift scandal comes around, they seem genuinely incapable of understanding why everyone thinks they’re hypocrites

    10. Ok-Commission-7825 on

      its all right and good that a tax cheat should leave. It’s also massive hypocrisy that this standard is only applied to those on the Left while the media ignores it being standard practice on the Right.

      Also note how this is always painted as a personal failing/choice – no action to fix the systems that allowed the underpaying in the first place is ever taken.

    11. shugthedug3 on

      I’ll preface this by stating very clearly that I do not like Rayner and consider her a total fraud who played a good PR game and little more. She abandoned her ‘principles’ very quickly and fooled a lot of people.

      She brought herself down, largely due to her own greed. If you don’t want the right wing press to bring you down don’t be greedy, they’re watching.

    12. TheCrunker on

      “Rightwing conspiracy”

      Come on. The right wing didn’t bait her into illegally avoiding tax did it?

    13. FlaviousTiberius on

      While I agree labour gets way harsher treatment by the press, in this case what do you expect? She’s supposed to be the working class face of the party that represents the idea of wealthier people ‘paying their fair share’. How are you going to get people on board with that when you have members who are themselves dodging taxes, notably wealthy ones at that as well? Just looks hypocritical, you can’t rail on rich people for not paying tax while your own members are dodging it themselves.

      People care less when conservatives do it because at least conservatives are honest about hating tax so you kind of expect them to dodge it.

    14. *However, they say her admission that she did not pay the correct stamp duty on the purchase of a Hove flat, which some see as a maddening own goal, gave her opponents a clear opening.*

      *The Mirror’s front page called it “crisis point” for Starmer’s deputy. It followed a statement from the conveyancing firm Rayner used to complete her purchase of the Brighton flat, stating it did not offer her tax advice.*

      Uses a basic licenced conveyancing firm for a £800K purchase while being Deputy PM and Minister for Housing having funded the deposit from a sale of a share of the existing ‘family home’ to her minor son’s trust. Taking further advice about trusts – both of whom suggest/recommend that she get specialist tax advice – which she doesn’t. Wait until the press investigates and then get specialist tax advice which says she should have paid £40K more in tax. Defend yourself that you relied on 3 pieces of legal advice that extra tax wasn’t due – when one doesn’t give tax advice, the other two gave advice on trusts but recommended she get specialist tax advice (a very misleading defence).

      So yes, quite the own goal is correct. Thankfully the press reviewed it and the Treasury will end up with an extra £40K + penalties and interest that was originally due.

      And for those that claim you couldn’t expect this ‘working class lass’ to know about such details – this is why you use advisors. She spent one year as a home help and then spent the rest of her working life before becoming an MP as a senior union steward – ie someone who would be expected to use the rulebooks and advisors to protect her union members.

    15. yubnubster on

      The right wing press basically controls the narrative in the UK, and pretty much always has.

    16. MrSierra125 on

      It’s a huge defeat for the right wing press. They were hoping to milk this for months while labour spun and made excuses and lied and closed ranks, like the tories have done.

      Labour pulled the rug here and cut the circus short.

    17. I didn’t know about Rayner’s disabled son until Wednesday and didn’t know that she had been a child carer until yesterday. My opinion of Angela Rayner was therefore mainly derived from what I saw of her on the TV news, and it wasn’t a positive opinion. Rayner could be extremely brutal and nasty in her attacks on opposition MPs and gave very little sympathy to those who had made genuine mistakes. Therefore, I was extremely glad to see her go – not because she’s a woman or a northerner or because she had had a tough upbringing, I was glad to see her go because my perception of her was of an unpleasant person who had probably tried to cheat the system and who had been caught out.

    18. Omegawatchful on

      Either:
      It was malicious, and therefore right for her to resign

      Or

      It was incompetence, and therefore right that as a minimum she is no longer housing minister

    19. Ok-Journalist612 on

      No it’s not.

      It’s not a ‘scalp’ ……..she wasn’t ’tricked’ into doing the wrong thing.

      She’s someone who continuously failed the ‘sniff’ test when buying and selling houses.

      She was only ‘sorry’ when she was found out and all the Labour MPs who came out in support of her now look like morons.

    20. limaconnect77 on

      No it’s not, lol. The electorate has shown it holds (with it’s deeply ensconced Tory bias) Labour to a higher standard. In other words, the good guys/gals have to always be pure as the driven snow.

      Just so happens that, apparently, this individual was clearly trying to do HMRC over on a property to save £40k. This person got caught out and is being hung out to dry by the party.

      Now, looks like all this is either down to someone’s sheer stupidity OR trying to game the system. Cannot have it both ways.

      Could have, originally, just come with a blanket statement to the effect of “I’m a thicko, my bad, paying back what’s owed now.” That clearly didn’t happen.

    21. Minimum-Geologist-58 on

      I was with Rayner until it turned out she was lying about actually receiving tax advice. The whole story also exposes a few nuggets about her as a person which don’t fill me with confidence, she’s certainly penny wise but pound foolish for example, a solicitor would have probably more firmly advised her to seek legal advice on trust arrangements for SDLT but she cheaped out on her conveyancing – not sensible.

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