Nick Clegg chiede “verifica dell’età adeguata per tutte le app che i nostri bambini usano”
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nick-clegg-facebook-online-safety-5HjdCgs_2/
di tylerthe-theatre
Nick Clegg chiede “verifica dell’età adeguata per tutte le app che i nostri bambini usano”
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/nick-clegg-facebook-online-safety-5HjdCgs_2/
di tylerthe-theatre
41 commenti
Yeah fuck off Facebook boy.
We all know why **you** want it to happen – so you can more accurately profile and track kids for the entirety of their lives.
I mean, the next step is so obvious isn’t it?
>Introducing the new Meta age check! Integrates with all you existing Facebook ads code straight away, costs nothing and provides great compliance with all laws!
>Oh, you have to have a Facebook account!
>Also, you can’t turn off tracking across teh whole web. Otherwise then it doesnt work.
>Yes, they’ll be ads.
Man who works for a company that is well placed to make a fortune from age verification lobbies for age verification. Ignore him.
The only way to implement “proper” age verification on any globally available website / app / service / whatever is to do the following:
– Have a national identity card / number system that is issued at birth / registered at a very young age by parents.
– Implement a state managed portal for registered/approved 3rd parties to *forward* users to, to input their ID and/or details, the 3rd party then gets back a simple TRUE/FALSE response to their question, for example: is the user over 18 years old? The ID details are never exposed to the 3rd party.
– Implement law/regulation forcing all services accessible in the UK, regardless of their hosting location, to implement a feature forward all self admitted UK users and/or UK IP addresses to this verification portal.
If you can’t do this, any age verification is a useless, easily avoided, vulnerable to explotation waste of time and money for everyone involved.
I’m sure the facebook execs are salivating at the prospect of all the extra data they could sell. Not my cup of tea personally.
I’m wondering how long it’ll be before we start “chipping” children at birth and then start moving towards “readers” in smart devices, once that’s in place it’s only a matter of time before “readers” are installed in shops for “age verification” and the whole thing will be sold to us as “protecting children” yet similar measures will not be applied to convicted criminals on human rights grounds.
I can’t imagine a world in which anybody gives two shits about what Nick Clegg has to say about anything.
One of the most heinous, spineless men in politics. Showed his true colours with that coalition shit, swallowed the Meta kool aid and now punts for them all the time. Bizarre man. I think he’s left Meta now though hasn’t he? What’s he doing now?
How about Parents monitor what their kids do? Is that too radical
One of my big regrets politically is voting for this idiot the first time I could vote
I call for Nick Clegg to fuck off considering all the damage he already did to a generation of young people by siding with the Tories instead of Labour, capitulating on tuition fees, and making the Liberal Democrat’s unelectable for a decade.
I really pity Sir Vince Cable and Sir Ed Davey for how much damage they’ve had to repair after Nick Clegg’s leadership.
Nick, there’s already a very good way to check kids are using the right apps. It’s called parental supervision.
Maybe the onus should be on parents and guardians verifying their own kids?
Why? The devices have Parental Controls already. Parents can (and should) block anything not age appropriate. The state does not need to do *everything* **for** parents.
I can’t see his face without thinking of that Frankie Boyle joke “Nick Clegg looks like he shouts out ‘sorry’ when he cums.”
Or just ban social media use for under 18s which is the real problem affecting young people. That’s where the bullying is and that’s where the Andrew Tates are. Leave all the other sites alone.
Hmm if only there was some sort of in person place where technology capable of internet connection was sold where age verification could take place at the point of purchase without the need to upload any data to a server much like alcohol in a supermarket, and some sort of way that smart telecommunications devices were registered to an adult like some kind of phone contract network provider with built in parental controls meaning that children would not have access to any social media sites.
Alas, I stopped listening to anything Nick Clegg said when he screwed all 2010 Lib Dem voters and generations of children by reneging on his tuition fees promise. Unforgivable.
Sorry, Nick, but please do fuck off.
the id verification was suppsed to be done by the gov. not american private companies. when he ways proper, he means his real boss’s company needs to do, facebook. so facebook could directly own the data instead purchasing through the third party agencies.
ffs everything is rotten
He wants to track kids? No way. A politician suggesting this? Almost unbelievable.
I do think it’s something that’s needed. Problem is I’m not sure if it can really be implemented without either being extremely flimsy or an extreme overreach. Or both, as we’re currently seeing, I suppose.
For me, my crazy idea, instead of giving away biometric data or personal identifiers, is to submit everyone to a Captcha-style maturity test, sure, some politicians would be locked out of their favourite cesspools, but that’s a sacrifice I am happy to make.
The man is working for the beast. A company that does the bare minimum to protect kids and hires far too few staff to tackle extreme content is using its political connections to push for this legislation. It is an affront to democracy and it makes me glad I was a few weeks too young to vote for him in 2010.
If it was somehow fully anonymous sure. This is just going to be used for tracking. I don’t trust these apps /websites and companies to look after this data responsibly.
It is not possible to verify age accurately without also verifying identity. Age verification is a privacy disaster
Or – or – hear me out – parents do their fucking job and use something called parental controls that have existed since the 19 fucking 90s. If parents are failing to safeguard their kids with the tools that are so easy to use and implement, they should be investigated for neglect because even a cretin can use them.
‘Proper age verification’
My kids can’t enable fitness trackers on their smart watches and phones. They can’t use biometric password verification and are blocked from a whole range of perfectly age appropriate games and apps, yet they can go straight to the ofcom web site and download a list of porn sites that don’t require age verification.
There are two specific points/events a lot of people conveniently forget about how that Coalition deal came into being.
Brown lacked the balls to call an early GE when he was massively in the lead…and the racist woman.
Not ‘bigoted’ – straight up OAP racist and is still lauded for it. That ‘piss woman’ from The Thick of It had a much more valid case.
I’d like for age verification to be instituted before people get exposed to content featuring Nick Clegg, so that I can deliberately not pass that age verification and thus be spared from being exposed to Nick Clegg
They want complete control, think minority report but instead of psychics its AI. Soon they will have enough data on all of us to “predict our thoughts” our next actions and even our opinions, a digital clone of everyone. They wont need us after that they’ve already started whittling us down and pitting us common folk against one another, and making it harder to start families, (ie, migration, proxy wars, cost of living) hoping we can get rid of each other for the nwo to begin. If they really cared for our safety they wouldnt verify age they would get rid this poision from the internet all together. But they want us gooning and they want to track you. Why is everyone so complacent and living with blinkers on to see the game that is afoot. This is beyond politics. This is evil.
How about parents do their job properly and not screw over random kidless people
Just give me a government and privately funded, open source UK based ID check signed up by Google, Apple, Meta , ISPs etc. That guarantees privacy through multiple verified independent checkers.
If I can have multiple companies openly verify that an app or a process can verify my age and untraceably unlock access to websites. I’m 100% down for it.
Until then, I’m nervous as fuck giving my personnel data out.
Does Nick have any link to the companies that would be used to provide this age verification?
How about parents take responsibility for their own children and stop punishing random law abiding citizens as part of an attempt to force them to raise their children for them while they do whatever they are doing while not monitoring their own children
Im all on board for the government being used to verify my age but i wont be sharing my ID with a 3rd party company end off
Nick mate you screwed over people once hardly anyone is gonna listen to you now
I’m so tired of being expected to parent other people’s children.
I don’t remember needing to verify my age to watch television. All teenage me needed to do was stay up past 11pm and we got all the unadulterated soft core porn you could want from British broadcasters no less. Eurotrash being one of the many one could watch without issue on channel 4 whose service remit is established by the government even if it’s not funded or owned by them.
Yet here we are in an age we’re every Tom, Dick and Harry have caught on to the fact information prints money and this is just the latest grift to extract the latter and control the masses.
Passing laws that do not address the issue and nurture change of approach to problems simply exacerbates the cause and accelerates the decline.
Nick, mate- you haven’t been relevant for almost 2 decades now. Give it a rest.
Won’t all of this just make it likely that people will be pushed to use just crypto and Tor if they don’t want to be tracked by corporations.
Fucks sake, this is stupid.
Just get Apple, Google and Microsoft to ensure that proper fucking tools are in place for parents to manage their online life.
Currently Apple is a fucking joke and all of them dramatically increase children’s autonomy at 13.
I’m still responsible for my child at thirteen. So I should still have the ability to control their content as I, their parent, see fit.
The government need to fuck off with their nanny state shit and ensure parents are educated and have the proper tools for an appropriate amount of time.
It’s not the governments job to parent my children and make it a pain in the arse for adults to access the internet without having to share our personal details or photo with every mother fucking random that asks for it.
N.C. the biggest disappointment to Lib Dems when he sold his soul to the Tories to become Deputy PM – failed his supporters on all his broken promises. Mind you, the political landscape has always been self-serving.
I’ll let Glenn Cullen speak for me here:
>He is a man without a spine. He is a man-worm. He’s a writhing mollusk without any strategies or convictions. He simply slimes his way into the nearest crack every night.