La popolazione potrebbe crescere molto più velocemente del previsto – Report (RTE News)

Feels like the population is 20 million with every road and town crammed

Not enough housing as it is. Not enough doctors or hospitals. Roads are jammed.

We’re just going to end up with more Irish people leaving.

The people coming in are either very rich or very poor. It’s already a tough place for the lower/middle class to live but it’s only going to get worse. They/we seem to be forgotten. Reminds me of that old Tommy Tiernan joke about owning horses – I’m not rich enough or poor enough to live in Ireland!

>In its report, the Department of Finance said: “If net migration was to fall to zero by 2035, Ireland’s labour force would contract from that point onwards, while the number of people ageing out of the labour force would continue to grow.”

>It adds: “The economic consequences of such a fall would potentially be very negative – posing major challenges for Ireland’s enterprise base, diminishing the capacity of the State to provide public services, and ultimately reducing living standards as a shrinking labour market constrains economic growth.”

>The analysis also highlights an issue as half of migrants with critical skills work permits are leaving the country within five years to work elsewhere.

Too much immigration bad, too little immigration bad.

“The growth in the population is expected to be driven by immigration.”

No, this shouldn’t be the way, if this is the way you are practically confirming the far rights theory of replacement.

How can folks who lived here all their life start a family if they are going to be in competition from people outside the country.

We need to look into making child care more affordable and to incentives families to have 3 or more children.

> The analysis also highlights an issue as half of migrants with critical skills work permits are leaving the country within five years to work elsewhere.

That’s quite interesting. I imagine they’ve just gotten as sick of the housing issue as everyone else has and decided Ireland just isn’t worth the trouble.

Ghost estates, high rise apartments and a bolstering of the construction sector need to be the main priority of the government for the future

If I go into town now I’m hard pushed to come across another Irish person. All the people applying for jobs where I work are non nationals. All the doctors who treat me in hospital are non nationals. The kids in my friends sons class are all non nationals bar 4 of them. Starting to feel like an outsider in my own home. When I was in school it was huge news if someone new was from outside the county!!!!

I understand that many people come here and contribute positively and do the best they can but the population growth over the past few years is just too much. Our housing/services/infrastructure are at breaking point.

If we want population growth, we should do it more slowly by helping young people start families. We shouldn’t be trying to replace this with immigration

Meanwhile the NIMBYs will be able to sandbag every critical infrastructure project.

We cannot continue to do business as usual.

Really interesting to read some of the comments and really good points made. I haven’t a clue myself so what I say doesn’t make a difference other than its my own thoughts.

De-centralisation and remote work needs a push. I dont believe ireland is full for one second. But Dublin sure is. Spreading everyone out and letting them live wherever they want, would give people a hell of a lot more choice and opportunity to have their own place.

I would say a discussion has to be had about the larger scale impact its having against the local Irish population. Without the whole rhetoric being “oh god you cant say that”. There has to be a point in time where we look at what’s happening and say when enough is enough.

Cut net migration to zero, the only viable solution.

A few commenters saying “we need to increase fertility rates instead of relying on immigration.”

The is zero chance you can increase fertility rates by enough to not be heavily dependent on immigration. _Zero_.

Fundamentally, women in societies with high access to education, work, contraception, healthcare and welfare do not want to have children in the requisite amount. Investment in childcare costs or housing will slightly ameliorate that fact, but it won’t change it.

We have decades of worldwide research and real world implementation of pro-natalist policies. We _know_ they struggle to have anything but minimal impact, and we know that significant impact in this context would still fall _far_ short of the required amount to address the projected need for immigration.

Can anyone point to one european country that has imported thousands of migrants and has been the better off for it ?

Not to mention, we can not sustain the population we currently have in terms of housing …

GDP and employment figures are not the only metric to perceive the happiness of a country and its citizens.