Well, it’s time to stop weighing things and call article 4, because that’s what it’s there for.
RoadandHardtail on
What’s worrying is the dysfunctional Poland between Tusk and this guy. Russians will tactically exploit this.
TrueRignak on
They should, but the issue is that the pro-russian members of NATO (Hungary, US, Slovakia) will be happy to block any discussion at the North Atlantic Council.
Nebuladiver on
Such a handful of nothing.
CapableCollar on
For those curious article 4 is opening consultation. It has been invoked twice so far in this conflict. Everyone gets together and discusses the triggering issue before deciding as a group what to do.
BanderiteOfMakiivka on
Aaaaand… instead started blaming Ukraine as usual
KernunQc7 on
tl;dr nothing will happen;
PL could use this as an opportunity to unilaterally close the skies over Western Ukraine, but they won’t.
nerokae1001 on
Russia is testing if eu have the balls to use article 4. It could determine the future of baltic states.
Jehuty321 on
Russia testing the water
malphasalex on
Any bets? Will it be a strong condemnation or a deep concern this time?
Tentativ0 on
NATO has no value if Trump decides so.
Europe should create their own unite army and cancel NATO.
twister55 on
German Media (Welt) is reporting that Poland has activated article 4.
pdupotal on
Just fucking do it!
Baschinski82 on
Für den Artikel ist zu wenig passiert in meinen Augen, ABER, ich würde der Ukraine jetzt bei der Bekämpfung von Drohnen durch die polnische Armee helfen, unter den Deckmantel, das nie wieder eine Drohne polnischen Luftraum verletzen kann. Das deckt der Ukraine etwas den Rücken, wenn polnische Luftabwehr in der Ukraine eingesetzt wird, so wie die polnische Luftwaffe. Polen / Europa sollte genauso rumtricksen können wir Russland
UncarefulEngineer on
Russia wouldn’t attack Poland if Biden was president. It’s Trump’s war /s
Electrical_Quality_6 on
We are being attacked
how good are air defences in poland
we need an emergency package for ukraine we cant lose them
Professional-Big5886 on
Omg, consultations, russian are terrifying. And preparing more shaheds in this fear.So laughable
Beezyo on
I find it terrifying that so many people here are incredibly war hungry.
The Baltic states or Romania will have the same surprise tonight or in the upcoming nights
merutz on
Insurance adjuster for the house that got damaged by falling drone debris: “That’s war, force majeure, no payout.”
NATO: “That’s… debris, let’s not get carried away.”
Same drone, very different paperwork.
If my house insurance won’t cover “falling Russian drones,” then NATO better.
nopainnogain12345 on
To everyone who mocks the EU’s “strong concerns” or “deep condemnation”: what do you want them to do, really? Say, “Okay, screw this… let’s go to war and destroy humanity”? It’s not ideal, of course, but these are very tricky circumstances and things can go south very quickly.
dustofdeath on
Next is a ballistic missile and they will still consider.
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Well, it’s time to stop weighing things and call article 4, because that’s what it’s there for.
What’s worrying is the dysfunctional Poland between Tusk and this guy. Russians will tactically exploit this.
They should, but the issue is that the pro-russian members of NATO (Hungary, US, Slovakia) will be happy to block any discussion at the North Atlantic Council.
Such a handful of nothing.
For those curious article 4 is opening consultation. It has been invoked twice so far in this conflict. Everyone gets together and discusses the triggering issue before deciding as a group what to do.
Aaaaand… instead started blaming Ukraine as usual
tl;dr nothing will happen;
PL could use this as an opportunity to unilaterally close the skies over Western Ukraine, but they won’t.
Russia is testing if eu have the balls to use article 4. It could determine the future of baltic states.
Russia testing the water
Any bets? Will it be a strong condemnation or a deep concern this time?
NATO has no value if Trump decides so.
Europe should create their own unite army and cancel NATO.
German Media (Welt) is reporting that Poland has activated article 4.
Just fucking do it!
Für den Artikel ist zu wenig passiert in meinen Augen, ABER, ich würde der Ukraine jetzt bei der Bekämpfung von Drohnen durch die polnische Armee helfen, unter den Deckmantel, das nie wieder eine Drohne polnischen Luftraum verletzen kann. Das deckt der Ukraine etwas den Rücken, wenn polnische Luftabwehr in der Ukraine eingesetzt wird, so wie die polnische Luftwaffe. Polen / Europa sollte genauso rumtricksen können wir Russland
Russia wouldn’t attack Poland if Biden was president. It’s Trump’s war /s
We are being attacked
how good are air defences in poland
we need an emergency package for ukraine we cant lose them
Omg, consultations, russian are terrifying. And preparing more shaheds in this fear.So laughable
I find it terrifying that so many people here are incredibly war hungry.
Art 4 has been invoked:
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-article-4-poland-russia-drones-airspace-2127438
The Baltic states or Romania will have the same surprise tonight or in the upcoming nights
Insurance adjuster for the house that got damaged by falling drone debris: “That’s war, force majeure, no payout.”
NATO: “That’s… debris, let’s not get carried away.”
Same drone, very different paperwork.
If my house insurance won’t cover “falling Russian drones,” then NATO better.
To everyone who mocks the EU’s “strong concerns” or “deep condemnation”: what do you want them to do, really? Say, “Okay, screw this… let’s go to war and destroy humanity”? It’s not ideal, of course, but these are very tricky circumstances and things can go south very quickly.
Next is a ballistic missile and they will still consider.
Scary. That defo stop further attacks.