Sono rimasto un po’ sorpreso nel vedere questo. Capisco che la frase abbia una storia molto prima della seconda guerra mondiale, tuttavia, pensavo che il suo uso oggi fosse controverso tra i croati – non è così?
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di oyeshello
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how do you understand phrase?
It’s not controversial, it’s banned by law.
But Imotski and surrounding inner Dalmatia is Croatian “deep south”, no one down there will report this and local police will ignore this.
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Then again, inbred idiots in black uniforms yelling this are allowed even in normal cities every once in a while too, so I suppose we’re all inbred genocidal nation after all. You can’t go against the evidence and facts.
Mushrooms making you see things
You couldn’t pass into Croatia at Imotski from Bosnia, only from Herzegovina.
Holy Moly! That’s nuts! Make sure to drink some soy milk to calm down from this horror scene!
Yeah, you are simply unable to see Confederation flag in the USA, anywhere anytime. Right?
In this context, when you read it all it is not controversial. There is no negative message. The only message I see is that people who posted that sign are ready to defend their home. This ‘greeting’ can be used in negative way and when it does then it is very clear it is negative. Ustaše used it and that’s why it has negative conotation and bad rep today. But many Croatian militaries in many different wars used it for centuries before 2nd world war. And after, during indenpendence war in the nineties. But I guess ustaše soiled it forever.
The phrase was used in homeland war, not specifically for Fascist reasons. It’s simple phrase meaning “for homeland” which ordinary soldier didn’t know/care about it’s Fascist use. So based upon that usage some people give it legitimacy and that’s why you see this signs, not necessary that everyone is Fascist (although there probably are some ultra nationalist). But to avoid slippery slope it’s banned.
Yep, this is pretty much the same as Sieg Heil. The right arm movement in fascist salute can accompany the cry as well.
People trying to rationalise it to you would try to tell you that heil just means hello and that sieg heil is just greeting the victory, nothing bad about it.
Comments on this thread are reflective of wider Croatian society which you can see play out in elections and party priorities even at this very moment as well.
Ginuli ste za to da se u 10 godina odseli 500.000 Hrvata a u 2 godine da vam dođe 250.000 Azijata? Za to da se političari javnom imovinom služe kao da je njihova privatna? Kad ste mogli protiv treće vojne sile Europe, mogli ste i protiv ovakvog silovanja države, naroda i javnog dobra.