I am not familiar with the concept, what does a no-fly zone entail exactly?
Snailbiting on
“drone horde invading”. Hyperbole much?
adarkuccio on
This is starting to look like a war
geotech03 on
Lithuanian part looks quite modest
New-Score-5199 on
Maybe im missing something, but how this will stop russian drones exactly?
OIDIAA on
The problem here is that Russia is a constant bully.
The game they’re playing is “I can start a world war and I will, I’m crazy and you know it”
While the EU is basically the reasonable one who actually DOES NOT WANT A WW3 which would be nuclear and most likely end the world.
So what you have here is a bully threatening hes ready to end the world if he doesnt get his way, and a reasonable person trying to somehow not let this maniac actually do it.
I’d hate to be in the skin of current politicians in the EU ngl. Russia and Putin are so bat sh*t crazy you dont even know how to communicate with them to ensure they dont randomly drop a nuclear bomb on half the Europe somehow
uxgpf on
If it’s real it’s good.
Clear messaging towards Russia. Send drones/missiles here and they will be shot down.
The main point ofcourse is to follow through with it.
I’d like Europe to escalate a little bit. Have those red lines covering the eastern Ukraine at least.
We are not sending drones or missiles to Russia (which would be a tit for tat response), but we could atleast destroy Russian drones/missiles entering a friendly (Ukrainian) airspace if Ukraine requests that.
Scout171421 on
I’d very much like to see the source. This seems completely ridiculous. Why would we be limiting our own air traffic because of Russia’s deliberate provocations? If there’s a no-fly zone it should be over Ukraine or imposed over parts of Russia after what they’ve done.
AdAltruistic6101 on
Kaliningrad ? 🤨🤬
DonDerBaer on
There has to be a no-fly-zone which makes it impossible for (f.e.) chinese airlines to use the russian airspace, one without gaps or temporary restrictions. That would make Russia loose money and rip these chinese carriers off their economic benefits (2h less flight time/fuel consumption to Shanghai). Money and military power ist in fact the only international language spoken in Russia.
Due-Resort-2699 on
Why not move the no fly zone a bit eastwards ?
wanderingmanimal on
Well, they better shoot down the Russian planes that are coming to test that zone
Gibbonswing on
what are the red things in belarus?
1000Zasto1000Zato on
Who fired a 14t drone from Ukraine in 2022 targeting Croatian student camp? The drone flew through Romania and Hungary before exploding in Croatia. Where was NATO then?
MightyTaur on
Putin is absolutely going to violate the no-fly zone and declare NATO the aggressor. Putin is war criminal already, he will not stop at the red line
_room305 on
Who is this no fly zone for? Are they surrending their airspace to Russian drones?
Ardent_Scholar on
I wonder why Lithuanians don’t move their capital to another city. This looks bad.
shoseta on
So mister Mevdevev, is it war then? You declared this would mean war.
KaiLovesMonsters on
The world when it’s my time to be an adult 💔
Ransom_James on
Correct me if I’m wrong but as I understood Russian aircraft lobs missiles from Russian airspace into Ukraine, so the aircraft never actually enters Ukraine airspace.
So enforcing a no fly zone over Kiev and other uncontested parts of Ukraine would imply shooting drones and missiles but never the actual planes. Am I correct here or not? And if so, why wouldn’t Europe implement it?
dino-delicious on
What a joke.
saturdaybinge on
If no-fly rules worked on Russia, we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place
matude on
That Northern tip in Estonia’s area will probably be tested by Russia immediately. That’s the part where they’ve constantly crossed our airspace.
scarr09 on
Is this entire thread filled with bots and morons?
The point of the no fly zone is to prevent civilian low altitude flight and drones. This is done temporarily for now, in response to Zapad and the recent Polish drone situation.
You do this, so that little Timmy the radar tech can actually monitor the area, and responses can actually occur quickly and decisively. So you don’t have a situation where drones can enter the airspace undetected and be found by farmers the next day – like we had in Estonia just recently.
Radar and air defense isn’t some passive thing, where you throw a radar and some missile silo up and just wait for it to pop whatever it might detect. This is a coordinated effort to monitor, to prevent and to respond if necessary.
-SideshowBlob- on
Not sure what this is going to achieve but okay…
HotelAvailable7856 on
You have forgotten Romania i think
MIRV- on
No fly zone on the wrong side of the border
Ansambel on
why isn’t it on the other side of the border? their drones should not be our problem.
tpol39 on
By the power of habbit, I read that as:
“Europe responds to Russian drone horde BY invading Poland recently.”
banaslee on
I hope we’re on our best game, because our reaction time will be tested.
The next step should be to give a single warning that on the next armed drone crossing the border, we’ll move this no fly zone east into Ukraine by X kilometers. And repeat.
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Link to source?
I am not familiar with the concept, what does a no-fly zone entail exactly?
“drone horde invading”. Hyperbole much?
This is starting to look like a war
Lithuanian part looks quite modest
Maybe im missing something, but how this will stop russian drones exactly?
The problem here is that Russia is a constant bully.
The game they’re playing is “I can start a world war and I will, I’m crazy and you know it”
While the EU is basically the reasonable one who actually DOES NOT WANT A WW3 which would be nuclear and most likely end the world.
So what you have here is a bully threatening hes ready to end the world if he doesnt get his way, and a reasonable person trying to somehow not let this maniac actually do it.
I’d hate to be in the skin of current politicians in the EU ngl. Russia and Putin are so bat sh*t crazy you dont even know how to communicate with them to ensure they dont randomly drop a nuclear bomb on half the Europe somehow
If it’s real it’s good.
Clear messaging towards Russia. Send drones/missiles here and they will be shot down.
The main point ofcourse is to follow through with it.
I’d like Europe to escalate a little bit. Have those red lines covering the eastern Ukraine at least.
We are not sending drones or missiles to Russia (which would be a tit for tat response), but we could atleast destroy Russian drones/missiles entering a friendly (Ukrainian) airspace if Ukraine requests that.
I’d very much like to see the source. This seems completely ridiculous. Why would we be limiting our own air traffic because of Russia’s deliberate provocations? If there’s a no-fly zone it should be over Ukraine or imposed over parts of Russia after what they’ve done.
Kaliningrad ? 🤨🤬
There has to be a no-fly-zone which makes it impossible for (f.e.) chinese airlines to use the russian airspace, one without gaps or temporary restrictions. That would make Russia loose money and rip these chinese carriers off their economic benefits (2h less flight time/fuel consumption to Shanghai). Money and military power ist in fact the only international language spoken in Russia.
Why not move the no fly zone a bit eastwards ?
Well, they better shoot down the Russian planes that are coming to test that zone
what are the red things in belarus?
Who fired a 14t drone from Ukraine in 2022 targeting Croatian student camp? The drone flew through Romania and Hungary before exploding in Croatia. Where was NATO then?
Putin is absolutely going to violate the no-fly zone and declare NATO the aggressor. Putin is war criminal already, he will not stop at the red line
Who is this no fly zone for? Are they surrending their airspace to Russian drones?
I wonder why Lithuanians don’t move their capital to another city. This looks bad.
So mister Mevdevev, is it war then? You declared this would mean war.
The world when it’s my time to be an adult 💔
Correct me if I’m wrong but as I understood Russian aircraft lobs missiles from Russian airspace into Ukraine, so the aircraft never actually enters Ukraine airspace.
So enforcing a no fly zone over Kiev and other uncontested parts of Ukraine would imply shooting drones and missiles but never the actual planes. Am I correct here or not? And if so, why wouldn’t Europe implement it?
What a joke.
If no-fly rules worked on Russia, we wouldn’t be having this discussion in the first place
That Northern tip in Estonia’s area will probably be tested by Russia immediately. That’s the part where they’ve constantly crossed our airspace.
Is this entire thread filled with bots and morons?
The point of the no fly zone is to prevent civilian low altitude flight and drones. This is done temporarily for now, in response to Zapad and the recent Polish drone situation.
You do this, so that little Timmy the radar tech can actually monitor the area, and responses can actually occur quickly and decisively. So you don’t have a situation where drones can enter the airspace undetected and be found by farmers the next day – like we had in Estonia just recently.
Radar and air defense isn’t some passive thing, where you throw a radar and some missile silo up and just wait for it to pop whatever it might detect. This is a coordinated effort to monitor, to prevent and to respond if necessary.
Not sure what this is going to achieve but okay…
You have forgotten Romania i think
No fly zone on the wrong side of the border
why isn’t it on the other side of the border? their drones should not be our problem.
By the power of habbit, I read that as:
“Europe responds to Russian drone horde BY invading Poland recently.”
I hope we’re on our best game, because our reaction time will be tested.
The next step should be to give a single warning that on the next armed drone crossing the border, we’ll move this no fly zone east into Ukraine by X kilometers. And repeat.
Bruh since when 6 drones are a horde lmao.