Keir Starmer in crisi mentre il lavoro scende al 16% in un nuovo sondaggio devastante
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2110524/keir-starmer-crisis-labour-new-poll
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Keir Starmer in crisi mentre il lavoro scende al 16% in un nuovo sondaggio devastante
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2110524/keir-starmer-crisis-labour-new-poll
di JayR_97
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All the country needed them to be was bland, mundane and something that just slowly showed signs of moving in the right direction.
But Labour will always find a way to mess things up for themselves
He could poll at 1%. He’s still got a massive parliamentary majority for the next 4 years. Polls mean virtually nothing right now.
I dunno what everyone expected. Maybe some people should have set their expectations higher last year.
Public: We will be happy if they are slightly better than the tories
Labour: Hi. We are only slightly better than the tories
Public: WTF? This is bullshit!!
I’m not sure you can describe it as a crisis when it doesn’t mean anything
At this point it could drop to 0% and it wouldn’t matter, until MPs start doing something public opinion really doesn’t matter
Don’t worry I’m sure fellating Trump on TV will get those ratings through the roof again!
They needed to be a left wing party, they decided just to be more Tories!
If you had 14 years to prepare for Government, and had no plans at all, then you too would deserve 16%.
Labour treats being the Government as a distraction.
Where’s the incredibly detailed plan to reorientate the economy to reflect the modern world and its challenges? Is the expectation voters write that plan…?
Who cares? We are 4 years away from a General Election. It’s noise.
Keeping in mind it is Find Out Now who have a pretty unique way of polling compared to the other pollsters. Not wrong per se, but it just analyses things in a way where more motivated political demographics tend to be represented more than more ambivalent ones. Reform has a more motivated voter base so they show up strongly in their polls.
I think they’re good polls for seeing which parties have the most on board and motivated voter bases but not necessarily accurate in terms of what would happen in an election.
The Express? You’d get more reliable news from reading tealeaves.
Time is ticking. I’m guessing they’ll be a change of leader before the end of 2025
The result is 100% predictable to anyone who watched the US election:
-a bland middle-of-the-road leader who tinkers around the edges of an economy which is quickly impoverishing the majority.
-turning a blind eye to and offering olive branches to fascism and oligarchy among the far right, who have nothing but contempt for him anyway.
-all while horrifying his own base by inexplicably supporting genocide,
He’s repeating all the same mistakes as Biden (except being old), and I can’t tell if he’s genuinely stupid enough to be surprised the outcome is the same or is a plant who genuinely wants to lose.
I mean, either way, Nigel Farage is going to be our next PM. Which is a rancid fucking thought.
The truth is Labour are between a rock and a hard place. The country itself is facing massive issues, we only have 24 million full time workers, an ageing population, and our three biggest expenses are pensions, NHS and benefits. it also looks like by 2030 , 1 in 13 people will be economically inactive.
And on the flip side we have Reform who are promising the world if the pesky issue of immigration is handled (even though their economic policies don’t really add up). Perfect storm really.
At some point we’re going to have to face up and accept cuts or tax rises. But no party is willing to really speak openly in this manner to the public, and I don’t think the people of this country are anchored in reality which is also a huge issue
They are going much lower than that and deservedly so.
They borrowed £18 BILLION extra in August **ALONE**. They are shitting the bed so dramatically I can only conclude they are intentionally trying to tank the economy.
People are too stupid to see that voting Reform is a huge mistake
This man is ineffectual, and has told citizens if they don’t like changes made, they can leave.
I mean, talk about stoking the fires of civil unrest and revolt.
What an absolute idiot.
“There came to Egypt a pharaoh who did not know”
For fucks sake, there could be four years until the election. No-one in Labour should be looking at opinion polls.
We’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of ideas!
– Labour, 2025
The most noteworthy change in my life since they came in is the random need for a vpn to access basic websites. Great job
I don’t know why they are surprised. What did they think would happen when they decided to do exactly the opposite of what people expect from a Labour government? They have been trying to go after Reform voters who are never going to vote for them and completely alienated the people who gave them a huge majority. A majority they seem scared to use to actually do anything with. They don’t need to please the anti immigration brigade, it’s 4 years until the next election. They need to focus on making things better in the country so that when it comes to the next election people don’t feel they need to blame immigrants anymore.
They’re Labour and they made people identify themselves to watch porn or YouTube even ffs. What kind of conservative bullshit was that?What did they think was gonna happen? Yes Kier we love that you’ve exposed us all because you’re either a creepy big brother neck breather or secretly actually a Tory… Oh and they fucked over people on welfare… Labour… sure ok…
Looking at this, yes it’s very low numbers for Labour, but also this is the most split the UK has ever been. There are now 5 serious parties in a system designed for 2.
I can think of two things he could immediately do to improve ratings.
Arguably Keith’s best week and yet he somehow still ended up getting humiliated by the media and his special guest.
You couldn’t make it up.
Sorry but where would we be if we had voted any other way?
But for me the employee rights changes, the renters rights bill changes the 150 BN investment yesterday, the increase of minimum wage, the NHS funding, the onshore plans for energy, the devolution changes , the cutting of unneeded welfare to rich pensioners is all good stuff
So I might not have been polled but I won’t vote green next time and split the vote for farafe
Once they sort the terrorists and rapists coming freely every day in the country through the boats and assylum hotels their approval rates should go back to some decent percentages
Labour turned out to be just as authoritarian and worthless as all the rest. I really think we are all doomed in the systems we have created.
They need to actually lean left. And not be Tories from 20 years ago in disguise.
So many people refusing to accept reality.
Politics has nothing to do with Policies anymore, it is all about putting on a show.
You might hate it, you might say its wrong, but the truth is and it has been like this for many years now, people only care about about soundbites.
Boris Johnson is the perfect example of this.
The man was completely out of his depth, was arguably the most unsuitable person to be PM but not only did he win, still to this day many people would gladly have him back.
Why, he had a Personality, he was Charming, he had Charisma. He spent years building an imagine for himself with the sole aim to become PM and it worked perfectly because he knew what people wanted.
This is the age of Social Media. People have 5 minute attention spans.
If you can’t break through the noise then nothing else matters.
Starmer has all the Charisma and Personality of tin of beige paint. His PR team is well aware of how poorly he comes across that is why they do everything they can to limit his interactions with the Press and especially the public.
You can argue as much as you like about Policies but its irrelevant if nobody is listening.
Boris, Trump, Farage etc.. all of them are vile human beings who are only interested in progressing their own fortune yet they have a following who will support them to the end of time.
Labour need to find somebody who is able to appeal to the voter, somebody who is charismatic, dynamic, somebody who is warm and has some humour.
Man was given a huge mandate and a majority for change, and he has squandered it. He needs to go now.
I have always voted labour. I have quite often felt kinda screwed over by the Tories. I absolutely feel screwed over by starmer. I’m convinced he’s a Tory plant designed to completely screw the Labour Party into the ground.
Labour are bending over backwards to appeal to Trump fans and Reform voters, none of whom were ever going to vote for them, and have completely turned their backs in the left.
There is no crisis.
They are the elected government for another 4 years.
That will be the only poll that matters.
As it stands they need to do a lot to make the reelectable but until 2028 they are not important.
We all knew they’d only have one term anyway but it was supposed to be better than this
I might never vote again. What a waste of fucking time that was.
And I voted for corbyn, like a mug. I can’t be trusted with a vote
I honestly am just preparing for a reform government at this point. 4 years is a long time but Labour have already proven themselves to be a party that appeals to no voters. The right won’t vote for them coz they’re not hard-line on enough issues the right cares about. They’re not appealing to the left due to the social stuff like cutting benefits to the disabled and poor and also engaging in transphobic identity politics, among other things. The centrists will vote for LibDem who appeal to them more so. Who votes for labour? I can’t even guarantee I will- the Greens are looking actually appealing now.