We don’t want this, we want reform to come in, sell us all down the river, burn our rights, bankrupt us and probably bring in ID cards.
WiseBelt8935 on
I for one want a Digital ID. it will just make life simpler.
Zketchy on
Do any parties oppose digital ID, or are they just slinging mud at labour regardless?
FuzzBuket on
How does labour keep doing this.
I’m abivelent on universal id. I’m skeptical of labour selling our data to palantir or Oracle.
But is this a thing our country desperately needs right now? No. Is this an unpopular policy? Yes. Do people on the left and right think labour should have bigger priorities? Absolutely. Is there’s a growing worry about labours authoritarian tendencies? Absolutely.
So fucking why. Is it just as mcsweeny has a Tony Blair cuddle pillow that he prays to before bed?
I’m sure labours done some good stuff, but starmers entire premiership has been constantly married by rookie mistakes that he didn’t need to make.
Doing this without any build up or story telling is absurd
RageRageAgainstDyin on
Population of English is what… 60 Million and change…
Let these numpts sign their petition.
Doubt it’ll get over 3 but even then just a drop in the ocean boys. 🙄
Alive-Turnip-3145 on
If only political parties had some sort of document where they could take their ideas to the voters. Then voters could decide on a party that best represents their values and interests. We could call it **manifesto.**
In all seriousness, Labour have no mandate for this. They should stick to growing the economy like they promised.
Sabotage-Darkness93 on
It’s not the Digital ID itself that’s the problem, because the likes of Norway and the Netherlands have it, and they’re ticking along fine and are, obviously, not dictatorships.
The problem is the thought of Starmer being happy to sell our personal data off to companies like Palantir a la the OSA, along with the potential of Reform UK coming in at the next election and not only keeping it, but using it to screw over those in society they don’t like.
That’s not even mentioning the extortionate sum this is going to cost, particularly when Starmer’s argument the whole time since he got in is working around the financial event horizon the Tories created over 14 years (which is correct on the surface, but he’s not exactly doing anything to rectify this sufficiently), along with the absolutely terrible comms around it all.
Urgh.
Appropriate_Toe7116 on
You all have digital IDs in various forms such as NHS and NI. You are required to have these to be a functioning member of our society.
You are not going to be required to carry a digital id.
You also all have digital IDs by choice for other various things like phone contracts.
I don’t mind the idea of a digital id that pulls a lot of the government services together.
Hell I wouldn’t mind if reddit required me to sign in via digital ID if it meant not dealing with bots.
But that’s just like my opinion man.
legrenabeach on
Those who keep saying that Starmer will sell our data to Palantir, you do realise he (and any other government, let’s not pretend he is the worst person in power for the past, oh I don’t know, 15 years) can sell it to them right here right now?
Why does he need us to have a digital ID to do that?
Literally all my data is sitting in the same place it’s going to sit tomorrow, whether tomorrow I have an ID card or not.
Jamie00003 on
We must really not like doing anything about immigration huh?
Apparently we’d prefer to be violent and racist, hanging up flags
Zealousideal_Rub6758 on
Despite the unpopular implementation – it will have popular consequences.. in particular it means that Labour can actually do something meaningful on illegal migration and stop being constantly boxed in as ‘soft on migration’. More broadly it’ll make sure only people who are eligible are working, only people who are eligible are using the NHS, it’ll clamp down on fraud, it’ll make government much more efficient and easier to navigate and engage with, improve policy analysis and reduce overall public service costs.
Overall it may prove to be an overall electoral boost in the long term.
Familiar-Woodpecker5 on
Oh look they have pitted the people against each other and will now implement digital ID to solve the ‘illegal immgration’ problem that they (Tories/labour and the media) created. Nothing to see here just WEF pushing their agenda. Don’t mind me and my tin foil hat.
IsOverParty on
I’m pro a FREE, optional ID card for anyone who wants one in Britain.
But a Digital ID would be too invasive. Future Governments could tie web traffic, social media usage, location data and more to your ID.
And I cannot understand their reasoning that it’d reduce illegal working. It feels like a selling point to Reform voters, even though illegal workers often get paid cash in hand and will continue to do so after the implementation of a Digital ID.
iMatthew1990 on
Labour voter all my life. It saddens me how much Labour are screwing this up. There’s been good things that get swept under the rug and then they just throw themselves under the bus with crap like this. It pains me that Reform could get into power because this party can’t just sit down, shut up and just do a better job that the god damn Tories.
davinist on
We have national ID cards in Türkiye. They’re great. We use them to log into a govt portal which completely centralises all govt departments. I can make appointments for hospitals and doctors, check my pension contributions, pay taxes, get documents for everything…I mean everything. Pretty soon we won’t need a separate driving licence and even now we can travel to some countries without a passport. The card is used to check your legal status, your work history and so much more.
So, what happens to the data?
İt’s all there anyway, in other forms, the İD card and citizen number just makes it much easier to get most beaurocratic stuff done.
CaptMelonfish on
1/70 object officially. Call me naive but I’m pretty sure there’ll need to be more people raising an objection to stop this.
HeartyBeast on
Yes, but how do we know those signatures are from actual British citizens? Checkmate … someone.
allenout on
I must give him credit, I never seen a politician so uncaring about their poll rating as Kier Starmer.
Ambersfruityhobbies on
This one is interesting. I sense an odd unity between the right and those they complain about most.
Who is integrating with who?!
Prestigious_Spot9635 on
I welcome digital ID. No more trying to find utility bill lol
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We don’t want this, we want reform to come in, sell us all down the river, burn our rights, bankrupt us and probably bring in ID cards.
I for one want a Digital ID. it will just make life simpler.
Do any parties oppose digital ID, or are they just slinging mud at labour regardless?
How does labour keep doing this.
I’m abivelent on universal id. I’m skeptical of labour selling our data to palantir or Oracle.
But is this a thing our country desperately needs right now? No. Is this an unpopular policy? Yes. Do people on the left and right think labour should have bigger priorities? Absolutely. Is there’s a growing worry about labours authoritarian tendencies? Absolutely.
So fucking why. Is it just as mcsweeny has a Tony Blair cuddle pillow that he prays to before bed?
I’m sure labours done some good stuff, but starmers entire premiership has been constantly married by rookie mistakes that he didn’t need to make.
Here’s a link to the [petition.](https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/730194)
Doing this without any build up or story telling is absurd
Population of English is what… 60 Million and change…
Let these numpts sign their petition.
Doubt it’ll get over 3 but even then just a drop in the ocean boys. 🙄
If only political parties had some sort of document where they could take their ideas to the voters. Then voters could decide on a party that best represents their values and interests. We could call it **manifesto.**
In all seriousness, Labour have no mandate for this. They should stick to growing the economy like they promised.
It’s not the Digital ID itself that’s the problem, because the likes of Norway and the Netherlands have it, and they’re ticking along fine and are, obviously, not dictatorships.
The problem is the thought of Starmer being happy to sell our personal data off to companies like Palantir a la the OSA, along with the potential of Reform UK coming in at the next election and not only keeping it, but using it to screw over those in society they don’t like.
That’s not even mentioning the extortionate sum this is going to cost, particularly when Starmer’s argument the whole time since he got in is working around the financial event horizon the Tories created over 14 years (which is correct on the surface, but he’s not exactly doing anything to rectify this sufficiently), along with the absolutely terrible comms around it all.
Urgh.
You all have digital IDs in various forms such as NHS and NI. You are required to have these to be a functioning member of our society.
You are not going to be required to carry a digital id.
You also all have digital IDs by choice for other various things like phone contracts.
I don’t mind the idea of a digital id that pulls a lot of the government services together.
Hell I wouldn’t mind if reddit required me to sign in via digital ID if it meant not dealing with bots.
But that’s just like my opinion man.
Those who keep saying that Starmer will sell our data to Palantir, you do realise he (and any other government, let’s not pretend he is the worst person in power for the past, oh I don’t know, 15 years) can sell it to them right here right now?
Why does he need us to have a digital ID to do that?
Literally all my data is sitting in the same place it’s going to sit tomorrow, whether tomorrow I have an ID card or not.
We must really not like doing anything about immigration huh?
Apparently we’d prefer to be violent and racist, hanging up flags
Despite the unpopular implementation – it will have popular consequences.. in particular it means that Labour can actually do something meaningful on illegal migration and stop being constantly boxed in as ‘soft on migration’. More broadly it’ll make sure only people who are eligible are working, only people who are eligible are using the NHS, it’ll clamp down on fraud, it’ll make government much more efficient and easier to navigate and engage with, improve policy analysis and reduce overall public service costs.
Overall it may prove to be an overall electoral boost in the long term.
Oh look they have pitted the people against each other and will now implement digital ID to solve the ‘illegal immgration’ problem that they (Tories/labour and the media) created. Nothing to see here just WEF pushing their agenda. Don’t mind me and my tin foil hat.
I’m pro a FREE, optional ID card for anyone who wants one in Britain.
But a Digital ID would be too invasive. Future Governments could tie web traffic, social media usage, location data and more to your ID.
And I cannot understand their reasoning that it’d reduce illegal working. It feels like a selling point to Reform voters, even though illegal workers often get paid cash in hand and will continue to do so after the implementation of a Digital ID.
Labour voter all my life. It saddens me how much Labour are screwing this up. There’s been good things that get swept under the rug and then they just throw themselves under the bus with crap like this. It pains me that Reform could get into power because this party can’t just sit down, shut up and just do a better job that the god damn Tories.
We have national ID cards in Türkiye. They’re great. We use them to log into a govt portal which completely centralises all govt departments. I can make appointments for hospitals and doctors, check my pension contributions, pay taxes, get documents for everything…I mean everything. Pretty soon we won’t need a separate driving licence and even now we can travel to some countries without a passport. The card is used to check your legal status, your work history and so much more.
So, what happens to the data?
İt’s all there anyway, in other forms, the İD card and citizen number just makes it much easier to get most beaurocratic stuff done.
1/70 object officially. Call me naive but I’m pretty sure there’ll need to be more people raising an objection to stop this.
Yes, but how do we know those signatures are from actual British citizens? Checkmate … someone.
I must give him credit, I never seen a politician so uncaring about their poll rating as Kier Starmer.
This one is interesting. I sense an odd unity between the right and those they complain about most.
Who is integrating with who?!
I welcome digital ID. No more trying to find utility bill lol