Norma Foley afferma che “vale la pena discutere” dell’abbassamento dell’età per votare a 16 anni | Indipendente irlandese
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/norma-foley-says-lowering-voting-age-to-16-worth-discussing/a645564447.html
di MrStarGazer09
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Fuck no raise it to 28, children shouldn’t be given the vote
The idea of me at 16 year old voting is terrifying. Apart from CSPE I had little to no exposure to politics. Fuck know who i have voted for because i am a mad bastard
Hell no, Raise it to 21.
It really fucking isn’t.
Has anyone ever seen Hildegard Naughton and Alan Partridge in a room at the same time?
Right… should we lower the voting age to 16? No. Okay, glad we discussed it!
She should go back to teaching to remind herself what 16 year olds are like.
Lower the voting age, please. The maximum voting age.
But seriously: One wants to lower the voting age, the other increase the age of adult criminal responsibility. Are they actually designing a voting bloc of voting criminals?
I share the opinion of the commenters here, but tbh the idea of a lot of people over 18 having a vote is somewhat scary to me, so who knows.
It should be impossible for them to get taxed on income if they cant vote. A bit shite that it is possible.
God no and also how does she simultaneously look like both Bert and Ernie at the same time, and also a 80s TV and mum
Getting young people involved in politics doesn’t need to mean lowering the voting age.
For example, giving youth councils more prominence and more sway would be a relatively easy way to give teenagers a voice and a feeling that they are part of the politics that runs the country.
European Youth Parliament is a big movement in Ireland, whereas the National Youth Council has withered and doesn’t make much of an effort to bring people onboard.
Don’t be absurd (and focus on more important things affecting 16 year olds why don’t you)
Do 16 year olds in work pay tax?
Then they should be allowed to vote
Given how many local politicians and tds have a teaching background I see the potential for unfair influence. Should be strict rules about politics in schools if there’s a change
16 to be seen as an adult to vote but raise the smoking age to 21 because you are seen as a child. Pick a lane you are either an adult or your not there should not be a “when it suits policy”.
Hahahaha how about no.
If people thought politics was bad with the fringe politics, now imagine 16 year olds voting from the fringe to be edgy. Besides, most get their political opinions from tiktok at worst and parents at best.
I’d support 16 for voting. As I get older I don’t really think there’s that much difference between someone who is 16 and 18, and they could be 21 by the time they get to vote for the people who represent them, a good percentage of them could be in the workforce three years at that point. Seems like a bad move for FF vote share though.
Lowering the voting age to sixteen would be ridiculous. 16 year olds are still legally children.
They *are* children – adolescent ones on the cusp of adulthood but definitely not adults. I hate this creep towards adultifying teens. They still need a lot of guidance, support, nurturing and protection.
Norma Foley doesn’t know shite.
Why though? What is the number 1 reason that people think 16 year olds should be allowed to vote?
The last thing we need are children voting. What madness is this?
Has it not already been discussed. Let them vote at councils and work it from there.
Not particularly in favour of lowering the voting age. But Im not vehemently against it.
Removing the age limit on the presidency would be more important to me.
It’s like they learnt nothing from the family/ care referendums. There are real problems, people don’t want this bullshit.
Well that’s the message I was sending with my votes.
Discussion about age and maturity aside, I find it hilarious and indicative of her awareness and intelligence, that she believes that cohort would be voting for her or her party.
Let 12-18 vote for a ceremonial youth representative, would get more young people interested in politics as well as make their voices feel heard, but don’t let them vote in local/general/presidential elections.
Terrible idea, when you’re 16 you think you know it all yet are frighteningly easy to manipulate
If you lower the voting age to 16 then you need to lower the criminal charges age to 16.
Unpopular, but I agree. The only 16 year olds who are realistically going to vote are those who have some level of interest in politics, and who are on average more informed than their peers.
I’d certainly trust the smartest of 16 year olds to make a more informed choice than many 40 year olds I’ve met.
The impact of such a change is relatively minor as well, given voter turnout among younger cohorts.
If you pay income tax you should be allowed to vote.
Lowering the voting age is an [NGO pet project](https://www.youth.ie/get-involved/campaigns/vote-at-16/#) and the intent is to shift the voting block more to the progressive left.
Like most NGO proposals nobody fucking asked for this or wants it. This is what happens when special interest groups and activists get outsized influence.
Now now, I understand everyones hasty to put down government choices of late, but really we have to be more understanding.
Clearly it’s worth considering, as you could just offer these new voters alternative facts and other incentives, thus boosting your numbers. Totally reasonable plan.
Considering some of the absolute muppets I know of that are above 60 I’m kinda for it.
It is worth discussing, as demographics will see to it that the old folks – to which I will belong in a couple of years btw – will have disproportionate representation. Allowing younger people to vote, might be one way to solve this.
When I was 16, I definitely would have voted for whoever I fancied.
Given that an election is every 5 years it’s shitty to know there are now 22 year olds out there who’ve never had a chance to vote in a general election. Future policies and decisions affect 16 years olds as much if not more than anyone else.
It would be a great way to engage young people before we disenfranchise them.
To anyone saying they know fuck all, student movement are often some of the most progressive. I mean the same argument can be thrown at older generations, the know less about the current issues and challenges of today. I mean look at how they vote, blatant policies that only help themselves and hurt the generations of tomorrow. The amount of pulling up the ladder behind them we’ve seen from boomers proves this.