Firstly, I’m not suggesting that continuing to run trains with droplight windows was a sensible idea given the astounding lack of common sense some people display these days, a rail company should take prior incidents into account when making decisions on passenger safety.
But personally I’m very attached to my head and wouldn’t stick it out of a carriage window while travelling at 75 mph, especially when there is an obvious risk of hitting equipment positioned next to the track or foliage that may have grown or fallen adjacent to the track due to storm damage or rot.
As a nation we appear to decry the growing nanny state that tells us what we can and cannot do, then hold companies responsible for an individuals failure to predict an entirely forseeable outcome to an action, a move that just adds to the abdication of personal responsibility, handing control over our lives and available actions to the government.
Edit: I guess it’s all self defeating in the end, where the abdication of responsibility leads to an avoidable accident via the thought “they wouldnt allow me to do it if it was dangerous”, leading to the curtailing of actions through tightening legislation, leading to someone else finding an even more dangerous activity that surely would be prevented if it actually was dangerous…
notouttolunch on
I hope the family put the Darwin Award somewhere prominent.
Electricbell20 on
There’s something about getting on or in vehicles that seems to suppress people’s self preservation instincts.
msproject251 on
What train allows you to lean out like that? Hsts did but they all have sealed automatic doors now.
Express-Doughnut-562 on
Back when I were a nipper we had a book written by Roald Dahl and illustrated by Quentin Blake on how to not be a fucking idiot on and around railways lines.
It included a page on ‘not sticking your head out of the window, you moron’ with a comical image of a mans head flying off after hitting a post.
We, as Year 3 kids, laughed; why would anyone be so stupid. Why do we need this one in the book?
Anyway, turns out we did.
giro83 on
I would have fined the family of the woman for wasting everyone’s time and resources, not the train firm.
I hate what we’re becoming, no personal responsibility anymore. Always someone else’s fault.
kahnindustries on
What on earth was going through her mind when she hung out of the train window???
Telegraph pole you say?
SeasonFew341 on
Aww I miss the old GWR High Speed trains with the drop down windows; bloody draughty but with a big buffet car etc – far nicer and more characterful than the hitachi stuff we have now 😭
Alarmed_Inflation196 on
The article has a very questionable paragraph. Read it carefully:
> Ms Roper had poked her head out of a window in a door which could be lowered when passengers needed to use the handle outside to leave the carriage, known as a droplight window.
It could have been written like this
> The door windows of that type of train could be lowered to use the handle outside to leave the carriage
Yet you could argue they are trying to imply she poked her head out /in order to/ open the window. There was no need to mix ‘Ms Roper had poked her head out of a window’ and the explanation of why the window exists
Cakeski on
Time to bring back those terrifying PSAs where jimmy decides it’s a good idea to fly a kite near a powerline.
OldGuto on
This appears to have involved an Inter City 125 train that has been around since the mid-70s. How is that for decades people managed not to stick their heads out of the windows and get themselves killed? Was it the Young Ones sketch where Vyv got decapitated doing that? Was it Roald Dahl’s Guide to Railway Safety?
Hal_Industries on
They need to bring back 70s style public information films
I know which trains it’s going to be without even checking. They are actually lovely trains, I’ve been on them, as have millions of others, and didn’t end up decapitated. Skill issue.
radiant_0wl on
As this is main railway company operating a commercial route with the general public then its warranted they got find as i think people should expect the safest journey reasonably possible but if it was heritage train and journey then i think they should have exceptions.
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And from that point on there were no windows you could lean out of.
Who sticks their head out of a train window at 75mph?
how is that their fault? this is why windows don’t open because of these moronic people
Bit mad really. Maybe don’t put your head out of a train travelling at 75mph
Time to start reissuing these [books ](https://tygertale.com/2014/06/25/final-warning-roald-dahls-guide-to-railway-safety/) to everyone again. I found my old copy and my boy loves it.
Firstly, I’m not suggesting that continuing to run trains with droplight windows was a sensible idea given the astounding lack of common sense some people display these days, a rail company should take prior incidents into account when making decisions on passenger safety.
But personally I’m very attached to my head and wouldn’t stick it out of a carriage window while travelling at 75 mph, especially when there is an obvious risk of hitting equipment positioned next to the track or foliage that may have grown or fallen adjacent to the track due to storm damage or rot.
As a nation we appear to decry the growing nanny state that tells us what we can and cannot do, then hold companies responsible for an individuals failure to predict an entirely forseeable outcome to an action, a move that just adds to the abdication of personal responsibility, handing control over our lives and available actions to the government.
Edit: I guess it’s all self defeating in the end, where the abdication of responsibility leads to an avoidable accident via the thought “they wouldnt allow me to do it if it was dangerous”, leading to the curtailing of actions through tightening legislation, leading to someone else finding an even more dangerous activity that surely would be prevented if it actually was dangerous…
I hope the family put the Darwin Award somewhere prominent.
There’s something about getting on or in vehicles that seems to suppress people’s self preservation instincts.
What train allows you to lean out like that? Hsts did but they all have sealed automatic doors now.
Back when I were a nipper we had a book written by Roald Dahl and illustrated by Quentin Blake on how to not be a fucking idiot on and around railways lines.
It included a page on ‘not sticking your head out of the window, you moron’ with a comical image of a mans head flying off after hitting a post.
We, as Year 3 kids, laughed; why would anyone be so stupid. Why do we need this one in the book?
Anyway, turns out we did.
I would have fined the family of the woman for wasting everyone’s time and resources, not the train firm.
I hate what we’re becoming, no personal responsibility anymore. Always someone else’s fault.
What on earth was going through her mind when she hung out of the train window???
Telegraph pole you say?
Aww I miss the old GWR High Speed trains with the drop down windows; bloody draughty but with a big buffet car etc – far nicer and more characterful than the hitachi stuff we have now 😭
The article has a very questionable paragraph. Read it carefully:
> Ms Roper had poked her head out of a window in a door which could be lowered when passengers needed to use the handle outside to leave the carriage, known as a droplight window.
It could have been written like this
> The door windows of that type of train could be lowered to use the handle outside to leave the carriage
Yet you could argue they are trying to imply she poked her head out /in order to/ open the window. There was no need to mix ‘Ms Roper had poked her head out of a window’ and the explanation of why the window exists
Time to bring back those terrifying PSAs where jimmy decides it’s a good idea to fly a kite near a powerline.
This appears to have involved an Inter City 125 train that has been around since the mid-70s. How is that for decades people managed not to stick their heads out of the windows and get themselves killed? Was it the Young Ones sketch where Vyv got decapitated doing that? Was it Roald Dahl’s Guide to Railway Safety?
They need to bring back 70s style public information films
[Vyvian showed us why in the 1980s](https://youtu.be/vcoWdrerLdU?si=LOTcbAn3P6NnNUXb?t=1m08s)
Edit: Timestamp didn’t work. Go to 1:05
I know which trains it’s going to be without even checking. They are actually lovely trains, I’ve been on them, as have millions of others, and didn’t end up decapitated. Skill issue.
As this is main railway company operating a commercial route with the general public then its warranted they got find as i think people should expect the safest journey reasonably possible but if it was heritage train and journey then i think they should have exceptions.