An opportunistic move to say the least, trying to get on the right side of this nice and early.
Regardless, this is the fallout from a mess Fianna Fail created themselves. Although they’ll keep saying a process was followed and he was selected etc.. But virtually every senior member of Fianna Fail came out with glowing support support of Gavin before he got the nomination, it kind of set a precedent that you have to vote for him.
So it was only ever going to go one way, and Gavin was obviously fairly naive in terms of thinking his dirty laundry wouldn’t come out. People are more than capable of sitting on information for years, and airing it at the right time, and this is what happened here.
asdrunkasdrunkcanbe on
Thta’s a bold move if ever there was one. He’s deliberating separating out Gavin from the leadership, so that the focus of the fuck up can be on the hasty and poorly executed nomination, and not on Gavin himself – because he’s no longer relevant.
He’s pretty clearly saying here, “The FF leadership have fucked up and now need to be held to account”.
I wonder who he’s got on his side? Because he’s young and has a clean slate, figuratively, then he’s a wise person to be the one to make this statement, but he’s definitely not acting alone.
Rossbeigh on
The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown.
Future_Jackfruit5360 on
Why does this feel like it lacks any real empathy for the people who were left without money.
Poor Jim was embarrassed.
Cute-Chemistry-2815 on
In some ways it’s fucked Fine Gael as well like HH was relying on Jim’s transfers, I’d imagine more people are now inclined to just stay home rather than making the effort of actually turning up to vote for her number 1.
dublinro on
Jaysus that was honest and fair assessment. Are we sure he is a TD. #JamesOConnorForPresident
aecolley on
Maybe stop pretending that Presidential nominations are the business of the party whip. Maybe let every TD and Senator nominate whoever they think fit, and quit threatening them with party disfavour in order to control nominations centrally.
No-Psychology-2430 on
That’s a great letter.
RepresentativeBox657 on
Jim Gavin is still on the ballot. What happens to his votes, and more crucially, his no 2’s. If they push HH over the line, will it be a valid election. Only in Ireland.
jhanley on
Mehole and Union Jack tried to handpick a mouthpiece who wouldn’t cause a fuss or refer anything to the council of state/supreme court. It’s on the younger generation here to make sure these guys pay for this, otherwise there’s no disincentive for this type of behaviour.
Tis_STUNNING_Outside on
Jesus Christ, I knew James didn’t like FF leadership but I didn’t think he’d deploy a nuclear strike on them.
One-Shop7806 on
Backbenchers should vote against the budget
fiendishcadd on
Poorly advised? He acted poorly why is it someone else’s mistake
earth-calling-karma on
I hope to sweet suffering typsetting jesus he used left align in the original statement.
Jester-252 on
That is a declaration of war if I ever saw one.
CubicDice on
One little blurb about the young couple being fucked over by Gavin, but many lines about how unfair the treatment he has received and set up for failure. Fuck off James, yeah?
smashedspuds on
It’s Everyman for himself in terms of saving face for FF now, lovely to watch
oneeyedman72 on
I love all the sympathy for poor Jim…..greedy prick caught out but poor Jim!
TwoRelative4870 on
Luckily FF have no skeletons in the closet from that era.
FunkLoudSoulNoise on
In Dublin fair, where stories swell,
A tale arose that folks now tell—
Of landlord Jim, so bold, so sly,
Who let his tenant’s hopes run dry.
“Just €3,500,” the tenant pled,
“For rent you owe, the lease you shed.”
But lo! What’s this? A statesman speaks—
Micheál Martin, past his peaks.
He scans the land with furrowed brow,
To crown a prez? He’ll show us how!
With wisdom dim and instincts dulled,
He backs a pick that leaves us lulled.
“A fine choice!” Micheál declared—
While half the country stopped and stared.
So raise a glass to Irish flair—
Where landlords dodge, and leaders blare.
A tenant’s loss, a nation’s sigh,
And clowns in suits who still get by.
ChatGPT , LOL.
Jacksonriverboy on
This is the most clear evidence so far that there’s a heave against Martin in the works.
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A good statement rare for an Irish politician
An opportunistic move to say the least, trying to get on the right side of this nice and early.
Regardless, this is the fallout from a mess Fianna Fail created themselves. Although they’ll keep saying a process was followed and he was selected etc.. But virtually every senior member of Fianna Fail came out with glowing support support of Gavin before he got the nomination, it kind of set a precedent that you have to vote for him.
So it was only ever going to go one way, and Gavin was obviously fairly naive in terms of thinking his dirty laundry wouldn’t come out. People are more than capable of sitting on information for years, and airing it at the right time, and this is what happened here.
Thta’s a bold move if ever there was one. He’s deliberating separating out Gavin from the leadership, so that the focus of the fuck up can be on the hasty and poorly executed nomination, and not on Gavin himself – because he’s no longer relevant.
He’s pretty clearly saying here, “The FF leadership have fucked up and now need to be held to account”.
I wonder who he’s got on his side? Because he’s young and has a clean slate, figuratively, then he’s a wise person to be the one to make this statement, but he’s definitely not acting alone.
The hand that wields the knife shall never wear the crown.
Why does this feel like it lacks any real empathy for the people who were left without money.
Poor Jim was embarrassed.
In some ways it’s fucked Fine Gael as well like HH was relying on Jim’s transfers, I’d imagine more people are now inclined to just stay home rather than making the effort of actually turning up to vote for her number 1.
Jaysus that was honest and fair assessment. Are we sure he is a TD. #JamesOConnorForPresident
Maybe stop pretending that Presidential nominations are the business of the party whip. Maybe let every TD and Senator nominate whoever they think fit, and quit threatening them with party disfavour in order to control nominations centrally.
That’s a great letter.
Jim Gavin is still on the ballot. What happens to his votes, and more crucially, his no 2’s. If they push HH over the line, will it be a valid election. Only in Ireland.
Mehole and Union Jack tried to handpick a mouthpiece who wouldn’t cause a fuss or refer anything to the council of state/supreme court. It’s on the younger generation here to make sure these guys pay for this, otherwise there’s no disincentive for this type of behaviour.
Jesus Christ, I knew James didn’t like FF leadership but I didn’t think he’d deploy a nuclear strike on them.
Backbenchers should vote against the budget
Poorly advised? He acted poorly why is it someone else’s mistake
I hope to sweet suffering typsetting jesus he used left align in the original statement.
That is a declaration of war if I ever saw one.
One little blurb about the young couple being fucked over by Gavin, but many lines about how unfair the treatment he has received and set up for failure. Fuck off James, yeah?
It’s Everyman for himself in terms of saving face for FF now, lovely to watch
I love all the sympathy for poor Jim…..greedy prick caught out but poor Jim!
Luckily FF have no skeletons in the closet from that era.
In Dublin fair, where stories swell,
A tale arose that folks now tell—
Of landlord Jim, so bold, so sly,
Who let his tenant’s hopes run dry.
“Just €3,500,” the tenant pled,
“For rent you owe, the lease you shed.”
But lo! What’s this? A statesman speaks—
Micheál Martin, past his peaks.
He scans the land with furrowed brow,
To crown a prez? He’ll show us how!
With wisdom dim and instincts dulled,
He backs a pick that leaves us lulled.
“A fine choice!” Micheál declared—
While half the country stopped and stared.
So raise a glass to Irish flair—
Where landlords dodge, and leaders blare.
A tenant’s loss, a nation’s sigh,
And clowns in suits who still get by.
ChatGPT , LOL.
This is the most clear evidence so far that there’s a heave against Martin in the works.