Ciao a tutti,
In 3 anni, è stata la prima volta che lasciavo le scarpe fuori e ho ricevuto questo messaggio… quindi immagino che ci siano alcuni edifici dove possiamo mettere la scarpiera fuori dall’appartamento (visto) e in alcuni (come il mio) non possiamo. Oppure mi sto perdendo qualcosa… 🙃
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di Technical-Nebula-824
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No, in general you are not allowed to store stuff in basically any communal spaces that double as emergency exits.
Your shoes were “geduldet”, not “erlaubt”.
it depends on the Hausordnung and fire protection plans. Your hallway seems to be very narrow and in narrow spaces you can not leave anything out. Even if your hallway had more space, if if it’s an evacuation route for many people in an emergency you can also not leave things out.
No shoes, no plants, no strollers, no bikes, no furniture etc. because in case of an emergency people can trip or be in the way of paramedics, fire fighters…
In most houses you are only allowed to keep your things in your apartment.
Still “well” handled. We never put shoes outside, once our guest did without us realizing, and it was gone by the time she wanted to leave.
My Hausverwaltung also mentioned it is not allowed even when they are not in the way of the fire exit, because in case of a fire it will create extra smoke. Really helped as a reminder to let the Hausverwaltung do the administration and keep them out of the house (we have quite a list of items that are officially not allowed)
Usually you are not allowed to store anything on the floor outside you flat as in the event of a fire it would be a fire hazard on its own as well as a tripping hazard. But it depends on fire ordinance in your state as well as your rental agreement
Technically you should never put a shoe rack in the hallway because it’s a tripping hazard, especially in case of a fire. In reality, people do it anyway, just as leaving their shoes, umbrellas etc. It kind of depends if somebody says something, but it is generally not allowed. I think writing a note just for a pair of shoes is a bit of an overreaction but they are technically right. Just for comparison, my old neighbors put their kid’s bicycle in the hallway several times, blocking the stairs to the upper floors. Now, _that_ was a tripping hazard.
It’s not laminated thus invalid.
r/aberbittelaminiert
💯Germany😅😅
For me it’s about the signaling – same as people who put smelly garbage bags in the hallway:
*I know my stuff too stinky for my own apartment – so I‘ll leave it outside to stink up the communal space for others.*
I‘m not saying your shoes were smelly, it’s more the message, than the smell.
I think it’s more the case that in some other buildings they are tolerated… I know buildings whose Hausordnung doesn’t allow it, but nobody enforces it.
Schuhe gehören nicht ins Treppenhaus. Ich nehme immer den rechten Weg und schmeisse ihn dann in den Müll. Seit langem stehen keine Schuhe mehr im Treppenhaus bei uns.
Edit: shoes do not belong in the Treppenhaus. I always take the right one and throw it in the trash. There are no shoes in the Treppenhaus anymore where i live.
Maybe enter the lottery. Your luck is definitely going one way or another.
I hate people who clutter up the hallway / staircase with their piles of shoes. I understand that appartments are small, but so are most staircases, so please keep them usable. My personal preferences aside, this is usually a fire escape issue.
Funny question when 1 view at that narrow hallways should explain everything man.
Wir sind halt net die Ammis. 😀
I have never seen legal shoe racks, I have seen a lot of shoe racks. Technically this is an emergency exit, hence nothing must be there.
You are missing nothing: This Paper is not valid, as it has to be laminated. Also a real German would have add some passive aggressive statement 🙂
It’s actually called Brandschutz. Usually nothing that might catch fire is allowed in the hallways. Also nothing that might block the way for people in case of an emergency. Like a bicycle or a stroller.
Ok I see your point. Someone was lightning fast, first time, one pair. But to answer your question from my point of view, why wouldn’t you have a shoe rack next to your door on the inside and put them there? I always think it’s disgusting walking past all those smelly shoes in a larger house. But that’s just me, probably.