If it is A-level standard as in “could you pass an A-level in English language? “, the vast majority of native English speakers couldn’t, so that seems a weird standard to set.
Anyales on
These arguments are so obviously self defeating. Why would we only want migrants to take the good high paying jobs?
Are we all so yearning to pick fruit and change bedding while recent migrants lord it over us with their massive wages?
Commercial-carrot-7 on
Completely misplaced priorities. How many high skilled-high pay roles in the country currently ask for English A levels?
Do we want people who will build the next Google or someone who can do a critical analysis of Romeo and Juliet?
setokaiba22 on
Whilst it’s good to have higher standards.. there’s a fair few people I know who failed their English GCSE and can’t even fathom a comprehensive thought..
ByteSizedGenius on
Is that grammar question in the article really “A-Level” standard? I’m dyslexic and an English A-Level would be an effective torture technique on me but even I know the answer having read through the options once.
Haytham_Ken on
This sort of stuff is ridiculous. I understand why. People working in the UK need to be able to speak English to a high standard. But how many native speakers would pass an A Level test in English?
Jamie00003 on
Completely agreed. Now can we stop scapegoating them for all the problems they apparently cause, ‘cause a huge chunk of them work harder than the rest of us, this being another example that I dbout many of us have
ADelightfulCunt on
Tbh they’ll just pay a paper school to say they have the required English level.
beIIe-and-sebastian on
Hah, foreign born people on student visa’s already require enough knowledge of English to understand complex ideas, discussions and communicate clearly and effectively in English.
I’ve seen enough ‘students’ doing Deliveroo and UberEats at the McDonalds counter that can’t recite the numbers and letters in their pickup order.
The fact they don’t enforce the existing requirements give me no hope this would be followed either.
Pogeos on
I always (as a high-skilled migrant who passed the necessary English test with surprisingly very high marks) highlighted that current English language requirements are a joke, but this seems to be now going into the direction of being too harsh. My daughter is currently doing English A-Level and…. no way I could have passed that with any sort of good marks. They should find balance… perhaps B2-C1, and add other considerations into the mix. Australia does it perfectly: eduacation, english level, actual need of your profession and readiness of the employer to chip in – all taken into account. If you got perect English and a PhD – you don’t even need a sponsor, if you are a brillian manual labourer that is in super-high need but got very little English knowledge, your sponsor will have to weigh in heavily, but they can get you in. Should be the same here. Don’t need to re-invent the wheel, honestly.
violet4everr on
Arent there already language requirements (and equivalents) available? Why not a standardized test to be performed before acquirement, rather than A level standard?
I had to show English competency before coming here, my high school diploma was enough.
Low_Map4314 on
How does this solve the problem with illegal migrants exactly ? …
Legal migration has always been straight forward to fix, it just needed resolve from the govt. to tighten the rules sufficiently till numbers drop.
Funny thing is this rule will also affect those from the EU, good luck getting qualified people coming to this country just cause their English is decent but not great. It’s fucked.
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If it is A-level standard as in “could you pass an A-level in English language? “, the vast majority of native English speakers couldn’t, so that seems a weird standard to set.
These arguments are so obviously self defeating. Why would we only want migrants to take the good high paying jobs?
Are we all so yearning to pick fruit and change bedding while recent migrants lord it over us with their massive wages?
Completely misplaced priorities. How many high skilled-high pay roles in the country currently ask for English A levels?
Do we want people who will build the next Google or someone who can do a critical analysis of Romeo and Juliet?
Whilst it’s good to have higher standards.. there’s a fair few people I know who failed their English GCSE and can’t even fathom a comprehensive thought..
Is that grammar question in the article really “A-Level” standard? I’m dyslexic and an English A-Level would be an effective torture technique on me but even I know the answer having read through the options once.
This sort of stuff is ridiculous. I understand why. People working in the UK need to be able to speak English to a high standard. But how many native speakers would pass an A Level test in English?
Completely agreed. Now can we stop scapegoating them for all the problems they apparently cause, ‘cause a huge chunk of them work harder than the rest of us, this being another example that I dbout many of us have
Tbh they’ll just pay a paper school to say they have the required English level.
Hah, foreign born people on student visa’s already require enough knowledge of English to understand complex ideas, discussions and communicate clearly and effectively in English.
I’ve seen enough ‘students’ doing Deliveroo and UberEats at the McDonalds counter that can’t recite the numbers and letters in their pickup order.
The fact they don’t enforce the existing requirements give me no hope this would be followed either.
I always (as a high-skilled migrant who passed the necessary English test with surprisingly very high marks) highlighted that current English language requirements are a joke, but this seems to be now going into the direction of being too harsh. My daughter is currently doing English A-Level and…. no way I could have passed that with any sort of good marks. They should find balance… perhaps B2-C1, and add other considerations into the mix. Australia does it perfectly: eduacation, english level, actual need of your profession and readiness of the employer to chip in – all taken into account. If you got perect English and a PhD – you don’t even need a sponsor, if you are a brillian manual labourer that is in super-high need but got very little English knowledge, your sponsor will have to weigh in heavily, but they can get you in. Should be the same here. Don’t need to re-invent the wheel, honestly.
Arent there already language requirements (and equivalents) available? Why not a standardized test to be performed before acquirement, rather than A level standard?
I had to show English competency before coming here, my high school diploma was enough.
How does this solve the problem with illegal migrants exactly ? …
Legal migration has always been straight forward to fix, it just needed resolve from the govt. to tighten the rules sufficiently till numbers drop.
Funny thing is this rule will also affect those from the EU, good luck getting qualified people coming to this country just cause their English is decent but not great. It’s fucked.