Crimine: menzione delle origini dei sospettati da parte dei media tedeschi

Now break it down by type of crime. Not all crime is newsworthy. Also, let’s see the demographics.

What % of population is foreigner? Just to put the 34% of committed crime into context.

Media overrepresenting minority groups’ crime in order to boost engagement? Impossible…

But surely the number of emigrants is less than German people.

Isn’t that normal? If it’s not mentioned then it’s implied they’re German.

Basically crime would drop by a third without foreigners.

Of the total number of crimes in the Police’s stats, how large a percentage is covered by the news?

Some kind of filtering is done by the news but is it based on the type of crime, whom the crime was committed by, a combination thereof or someting else?

Edit: ChatGPT translation of the underlying source (https://mediendienst-integration.de/artikel/auslaendische-tatverdaechtige-in-deutschen-leitmedien-ueberrepraesentiert.html):

>”Foreign Suspects in German Leading Media Over-represented

>German leading media report far more frequently on violent crimes committed by foreigners than is reflected by their share in the Police Crime Statistics. That is shown by a new data analysis on the theme of migration and crime in the media.

>Newsrooms handle the question of when the origin of suspects is mentioned in different ways.

>Foreigners are over-represented in TV and print media when it comes to crime. That was shown by long-term analyses by journalism professor Thomas Hestermann over recent years. In an expert report for the Mediendienst Integration he has now evaluated current data from 2025. They show: the over-representation of foreign suspects in German leading media is stronger than ever before.

>The results at a glance

>• One quarter of TV reports on violent crimes name the origin of the suspects. Of these TV reports, 94.6 percent deal with foreign suspects. This is the highest value measured to date in the time-series since 2007.

>• One third of print reports on violent crimes name the origin of the suspects. 90.8 percent of these print reports relate to foreign suspects.

>• According to the latest Police Crime Statistics of the Federation the portion of foreign suspects in violent crimes is 34.3 percent. Thus foreign suspects are roughly three times over-represented in the media.

>• Almost three-quarters of the foreign suspects in media reports come from predominantly Muslim countries (TV 70.3 percent, print 70.1 percent). This is significantly more than the Police Crime Statistics report for these countries (15.8 percent). Suspects from Muslim-majority countries are thus in German leading media more than four-times over-represented.

>Foreign suspects in TV roughly three-times over-represented

>In coverage of violence in German television, whenever the origin is named, almost exclusively foreign suspects are reported. That is shown by Prof. Hestermann’s evaluation of programmes from ARD, ZDF, RTL, Sat.1, ProSieben, Kabel Eins, Vox and RTL Zwei from spring 2025. One in four reports on violent crimes domestically refers to the origin of the suspects (25.4 percent).

>When the origin is mentioned, 94.6 percent of the suspects are non-German. That is the highest value measured so far in Hestermann’s long-term analysis since 2007. The actual proportion of foreigners in violent crimes is about one third according to the Police Crime Statistics.

>Foreign suspects in print media also roughly three-times over-represented

>In high-circulation supra-regional daily newspapers (Bild, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Welt and taz) the origin is named more often than on television: in every third report (33.0 percent). Among the newspaper reports with origin naming, 90.8 percent of the suspects are non-German. The highest share is reached by Welt and taz – during the investigation period they mention exclusively non-German suspects.
In Süddeutsche Zeitung the share of foreign suspects is lowest: 72.7 percent.

>Suspects from Muslim-majority countries more than four-times over-represented

>Another pattern appears both in the examined television formats and in the supra-regional daily newspapers: whenever the origin is cited, 70.3 percent (TV) or 70.1 percent (print media) of the suspects come from Muslim-majority countries. According to the Police Crime Statistics, the share of these countries is only 15.8 percent. People from Muslim-majority origin countries are thus more than four-times over-represented in German leading media.

>On the methodology

>The present survey refers to a study period of four weeks from 2025: January 13–19, February 3–9, March 6–12, April 7–13. Investigated were:

>• the television channels ARD, ZDF, RTL, Sat.1, ProSieben, Kabel Eins, Vox and RTL Zwei. For the current investigation, from 272 TV programmes 168 TV contributions on violent crime in Germany with 146 suspects were recorded.

>• The print media Bild, Süddeutsche Zeitung, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, Welt and taz. For the current investigation, from 116 newspaper issues 330 articles with 263 suspects were recorded.
Violent crime includes all offences against life, sexual self-determination, personal freedom, as well as rough offences according to the corresponding offence keys of the Police Crime Statistics. The filter criterion for foreign origin is the explicit assignment (e.g. “Turkish woman”, “southern country”, “child of Arab parents”) or the mention of a status possible only for non-Germans (e.g. “civil-war refugee”, “asylum-seeker”) in the respective reports.

>By Donata Hasselmann and Fabio Ghelli”

In other words, 20% of the population is committing 35% of the crimes… This only proves one point.

What % of the German population do foreigners make up?

34% of the crime is really high if, for example the total population is only say 5-10% foreigners, does anyone know roughly?

Today i learned this sub is way more anti foreigner than I thought

Interesting. Belgian media is usually accused of doing the opposite.

Actually…you’ll probably find that 30% of Germans are immigrants or children of immigrants so it all works out statistically

Have to say I don’t really understand this. The question people are asking is “would a Germany be a safer place without immigration?” And if the answer is yes, there is something fundamentally wrong.

Noone will compromise on their safety. That is the most valuable thing Europe/Germany achieved. Nobody will be saying “…yeah it’s more dangerous but…”.

And no data gymnastics can change your basic human needs.

Now do UK

Dutch media…same.