I nuovi membri dell’UE potrebbero aderire senza pieno diritto di voto
https://www.politico.eu/article/new-eu-members-could-join-without-full-voting-veto-rights/
di lukalux3
I nuovi membri dell’UE potrebbero aderire senza pieno diritto di voto
https://www.politico.eu/article/new-eu-members-could-join-without-full-voting-veto-rights/
di lukalux3
22 commenti
Sounds a lot like us.
I have a proposal that will solve all problems: new members can only join without any rights to any subsidies, any rights to the visa-free movement and common job market, any rights to get help in case of war. Oh, and they must commit to investing 100 billion dollars in Hungary and Slovakia. Orban and Fico give their hearty agreement!
Do I really need to add /s I wonder… These days many people just can’t get jokes anymore. :-(((
Superstar philosopher Slavoj Zizek wrote (March 2025): “Europe should begin to behave as if it were in a state of emergency and were seriously threatened by armed conflict. Whereby rearmament is the only means to prevent an actual war.”
[https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/interview-mit-slavoj-zizek-europa-muss-eine-neue-supermacht-werden-726207095015](https://www.tagesanzeiger.ch/interview-mit-slavoj-zizek-europa-muss-eine-neue-supermacht-werden-726207095015)
As long as there is no EU of two speeds or a abolition of the unanimous vote for a qualified majority , that seems reasonable
So like the EEA?
The expansion to the east was too quick. EU should have force fundamental rights like Women’s Rights, Courts, an Euro with deadlines, but now it failed.
Just kick out Hungary and get going with. They are the problem. And that problem won’t ho away any time soon.
“*You are on this Council*, *but we do not grant you the rank of Master”*
I’ve been saying this for ages. Get all EU candidates, bar Serbia for now, into the EU, but give no veto right for a period of some decade or two.
That’s not gonna fuel anti-eu sentiment whenever a conflict appears like at all…
Would candidate countries accept being subject to EU law without having full voting rights? I have a hard time imagining such an arrangement not making joining the EU wildly unpopular.
I’m from bosnia, and I think they should go for it. In fact, don’t even give us any money at all until things improve.
There is a lot of skilled labour here, because like in india, there is only three carreer choices to choose from if you wanna live well and those are Medicine, Engineering, and Law.
The main reasons bosnians want to join the EU is more career mobility, better access to education, and stronger passports, because believe it or not, those with good careers live quite well nowadays.
For me personally, bosnia joining would mean I get to move back home actually. I had to jump through loops to study in the EU, and now I work remotely, and can work remotely from anywhere within the EU. I’d prefer to work remotely from bosnia though.
Phrasing it as “…being blocked by Hungarian leader Viktor Orbán and others.” is pretty dishonest. There are more and especially less notorious members of the EU who are weary about expansion. And citing Anton Hofreiter only to end with a quote from Merz that Ukraine won’t be a member before 2034 is pretty disarming in itself for the article.
Bottom line is there are some, influential EU bureaucrats (i.e. von der Leyen) who are pushing hard for a fast track for Ukraine into the EU and are (again typical for von der Leyen) willing to ignore the writing on the wall.
Id love that. Sounds like a good compromise. If EU membership then isnt enough dont join
Eu making up the rules as they go along…
Only makes sense if they introduce a mechanism to raise or lower all EU member nations through these tiers. Why should new members not have voting rights while Hungary still does? Create a mechanism for reducing the rights of members that are clearly undemocratic and/or against EU interests.
Like fuck Orban. But this is brute forcing your way because following the rules you yourself set up doesn’t work.
“Everyone has veto rights but if you veto against me i will ignore you”.
Just start a new union with all these potential new countries then and have countries who want to join join. The same way countries who are extremely against something currently in place in the EU are free to leave if they dont like it.
Real dystopia hasn’t been tried yet
Real dystopia hasn’t been tried yet
There’s a more egalitarian way of achieving this: abolish the Council. We have Parliament and Commission already.
>The idea is that new members would achieve full rights once the EU has overhauled the way it functions to make it more difficult for individual countries to veto policies.
>It’s the latest attempt by pro-EU enlargement governments to breathe life into an expansion process that is currently being blocked by Budapest and a few other capitals…
Good idea actually. It might even expedite membership applications.
Also, they get fully voting rights “once the EU has overhauled the way it functions to make it more difficult for individual countries to veto policies”.
So there might just be some movement toward that very important reform of making it more difficult to veto, or maybe even replacing it with qualified majority voting.
If it comes to pass and applicants don’t like it, they can always withdraw their application.
Makes sense. It is the only way for any countries to be able to join in the near future.