I see the Guardian is capitalising black now, we’ve really imported that nonsense from America have we? Anyway this person who resigned thinks mass immigration is a success story and he wants the UK to pay reparations to African-Caribbeans, so I guess he probably was in the wrong party after all. Did he really only just figure that out?
I mean you join a party whose main policy is to slash immigration and then one day you’re like, wow, this party wants to do what? Cut immigration? Oh no, I don’t like that. I am going to resign. Okay mate, bye.
BugPsychological4836 on
He wants more migration, why on earth did he join reform in the first place
anotherthrow25 on
Because the migration issue for reform is massive for votes, their priority is cutting taxes for the wealthy, destroying the NHS and other public organisations, and allowing big businesses to use the country as their playground. That’s why they joined the party, because they know Reform doesn’t care about migration as much as those things, but it’s the thing that will get them the votes.
TheL0wKing on
Just to be clear; he is the black, pro-immigration and diversity, son of immigrants, whose background is in youth work and special needs, who believes the UK should pay reparations to former colonies, and who considers empathy a core part of his faith.
Who joined and stood for reform…..
And is now leaving because he thinks their small boats and general anti-immigration rhetoric is creating division.
You know what, I am just happy for him, he got there eventually.
Hungry_Horace on
Farage’s political parties tend to follow a similar trend.
Farage wants the ability to flirt with, and count on the votes of, ethno-nationalists. So much of his rhetoric is carefully phrased wolf whistles that sound ok to floating voters, but are a nod and a wink to the BNP spectrum of political belief.
This is fine as long as his party (UKIP or now Brexit/Reform) are a protest movement. You can count on some decent marches and red-faced questioners on Question Time. You attract money from the US, or Russia, and everything is grand.
The issue with UKIP arose when they became genuinely popular and increasingly electable. Then you have to actually start building a party structure, getting candidates to stand locally and nationally, and have elected representatives do their job.
It’s at this point that those genuine far-right supporters start becoming problematic because they’re often the ones motivated to actually stand for office and see your party as a route to power.
Farage lost control of UKIP in this manner. He realised that the more visible extremists and their hate speech would be a genuine turn-off to the average British voter, and was unable to control the party’s march to the right. At the point that Tommy Robinson came on board, Farage jumped.
Reform is his second attempt, and this time he has a much stronger grip on the party, having done away with the traditional party makeup of allowing members to have a say. It’s HIS personality cult.
But I think we’re still seeing the same issues. The party gets too big for one person to vet every decision, every candidate. If any large personalities crop up, like Rupert Lowe, they are a threat. But the far-right are creeping back in, and so any moderate members, like this chap, who might have thought Reform would be a genuinely broad-church movement, are realising that ultimately it’s the same old vehicle for hate.
Significant-Leek8483 on
Man finds his house burning after trying to fuel an arson party next door.
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I see the Guardian is capitalising black now, we’ve really imported that nonsense from America have we? Anyway this person who resigned thinks mass immigration is a success story and he wants the UK to pay reparations to African-Caribbeans, so I guess he probably was in the wrong party after all. Did he really only just figure that out?
I mean you join a party whose main policy is to slash immigration and then one day you’re like, wow, this party wants to do what? Cut immigration? Oh no, I don’t like that. I am going to resign. Okay mate, bye.
He wants more migration, why on earth did he join reform in the first place
Because the migration issue for reform is massive for votes, their priority is cutting taxes for the wealthy, destroying the NHS and other public organisations, and allowing big businesses to use the country as their playground. That’s why they joined the party, because they know Reform doesn’t care about migration as much as those things, but it’s the thing that will get them the votes.
Just to be clear; he is the black, pro-immigration and diversity, son of immigrants, whose background is in youth work and special needs, who believes the UK should pay reparations to former colonies, and who considers empathy a core part of his faith.
Who joined and stood for reform…..
And is now leaving because he thinks their small boats and general anti-immigration rhetoric is creating division.
You know what, I am just happy for him, he got there eventually.
Farage’s political parties tend to follow a similar trend.
Farage wants the ability to flirt with, and count on the votes of, ethno-nationalists. So much of his rhetoric is carefully phrased wolf whistles that sound ok to floating voters, but are a nod and a wink to the BNP spectrum of political belief.
This is fine as long as his party (UKIP or now Brexit/Reform) are a protest movement. You can count on some decent marches and red-faced questioners on Question Time. You attract money from the US, or Russia, and everything is grand.
The issue with UKIP arose when they became genuinely popular and increasingly electable. Then you have to actually start building a party structure, getting candidates to stand locally and nationally, and have elected representatives do their job.
It’s at this point that those genuine far-right supporters start becoming problematic because they’re often the ones motivated to actually stand for office and see your party as a route to power.
Farage lost control of UKIP in this manner. He realised that the more visible extremists and their hate speech would be a genuine turn-off to the average British voter, and was unable to control the party’s march to the right. At the point that Tommy Robinson came on board, Farage jumped.
Reform is his second attempt, and this time he has a much stronger grip on the party, having done away with the traditional party makeup of allowing members to have a say. It’s HIS personality cult.
But I think we’re still seeing the same issues. The party gets too big for one person to vet every decision, every candidate. If any large personalities crop up, like Rupert Lowe, they are a threat. But the far-right are creeping back in, and so any moderate members, like this chap, who might have thought Reform would be a genuinely broad-church movement, are realising that ultimately it’s the same old vehicle for hate.
Man finds his house burning after trying to fuel an arson party next door.