Spiegato in Questo articolo essenzialmente. In breve, il Belgio sembra temere le controversie russe che potrebbero emergere dall’utilizzo di quei soldi.
Sono ansioso di sapere, senza giudicare, cosa ne pensano i belgi medi a riguardo. Anch’io sono finlandese, e a volte mi sento un po’ abbattuto per la risposta deludente agli aiuti all’Ucraina, per il fatto che sostengano formalmente l’unità europea, ma non riescano ad agire di conseguenza.
How do you feel about failing to free the Russian assets
byu/Rincetron1 inbelgium
di Rincetron1
23 commenti
Mister De Wever is entirely right about this.
I don’t usually back De Wever, but… the fact he’s simply asking for the EU to cover his ass would Russia sue us back and win, and that the EU refuse, is an absolute clownfuckery.
Without support from other countries we’d sacrifice Euroclear’s reputation.
I am 100 percent in favour of freezing the assets and sending the interest to Ukraine.
I also believe we should send more help.
I agree with our government in this case. It’s unreasonable to ask Belgium to carry the risks alone.
You could also blame all the others that don’t want to write guarantees in black and white.
But i agree the response of Europe has been lackluster, i guess nationalism is a big part of this. And for some reason mostly boomers but i see it in younger people as well. Still think that feudalism will work and we as individual countries can still stand up to the super powers of a globalists world.
It’s not for Belgium to make that decision and if the EU does decide to take those funds it’s a dangerous precedent.
The way you wrote your post makes me think you don´t really understand his position.
I’m happy they didn’t release the assets and the government is right to demand iron clad guarantees from the EU states. We didn’t get those, so we should keep that money frozen.
We get why you’re scared of Russia, but we’re not going to risk bankrupting our entire nation for the sake of funding this war with stolen money. The law is the law and some rules should never be broken to keep the current economy and market in one piece.
What stops us from taking billionaire’s money from their bank accounts to solve world hunger and shelter all the homeless? The law, just as it does now. Your pretenses do not justify any such actions.
It seems people outside of Belgium dont know a lot about this topic. How difficult this is for us. If this goes wrong and burdons are not shared then Belgium is bancrupt. And aparantly its all bit more complex for the others to because if it wasn’t that complex why not just agree to our demands?
Belgian here, happy De Wever is carefull on this one. The days that money was backed by a gold standard are long gone. These days money is backed on trust and respect in the financial system. Releasing these funds carelesly, invites sanctions and unknown market reactions.
It’s not just fear, it would also be a dangerous precedent in our international financial system. Until now, the principle of ownership remained holy during every conflict.
Taking Russian assets would:
1) make any country think twice before placing assets in the EU;
2) help other countries to morally justify the same actions, especially with EU assets.
Once this rule about respecting ownership is violated for the first time, it will be violated more often.
It shouldn’t be Belgiums call. I personally am in favor of releasing those assets and giving them to Ukraine but it shouldn’t be Belgiums action, it should be an EU wide decision, preferably backed by the USA.
I don’t like BDW, but we also don’t want to create what could be a dangerous precedent.
Yes, Russia is objectively the bad guy here.
Yes, using their own assets to support Ukraine is morally right.
But we have laws to follow and making exceptions is a slippery slope.
I hate BDW with a passion, but he’s right about this.
I’d 100% love to see the money go to Ukraine, so come on member states, put your money where your mouth is!
The Euroclear assets must not be released except to the rightful owners of the assets. Ever.
Thats coming from someone who is extremely pro Ukraine.
If you are so opposed to paying no more than lip service to European unity, you should stop doing it.
European unity in this case would mean sharing the risk and legal guarantees for Belgium.
Since you’d rather hang us out to dry, I agree with our prime minister, for once.
There are smarter ways to use that money for both the EU and Ukraine.
Invest in EU bonds and give the interest to Ukraine.
I think that de wever-s right about this. We cannot do this without guarantees..
I don’t like Russia as much as the next guy but doing this without guarantees would be a dangerous precedent to set
Sell the milk, not the cow. We’re already taking the interest on the money and giving it to Ukraine.
Taking the money itself would undermine confidence in EU financial institutions at a time when we really can’t take any more blows.
Then why don’t you ask your government to back our prime minister? He is asking for EU leaders to put in ink their backing of Belgium in case this backfires.
France and Luxembourg also have a lot of Russian assets. Why are they not asked to do the same thing?
So far I have seen lots of European nations asking a lot from Belgium, but when it comes down to put their backing into ink and law and to disclose the Russian assets in their country, somehow we don’t hear them anymore?
Sell the milk, not the cow. Keep hold of the assets thrmselves, give the intrest to ukraine.
Not a fan of De Wever’s party, but he’s being very reasonable in this matter and i support him.